Last Call Review of draft-ietf-mile-rolie-10

Request Review of draft-ietf-mile-rolie
Requested rev. no specific revision (document currently at 16)
Type Last Call Review
Team ART Area Review Team (artart)
Deadline 2017-10-24
Requested 2017-09-29
Requested by Alexey Melnikov
Other Reviews Genart Telechat review of -10 by Meral Shirazipour (diff)
Review State Completed
Reviewer Martin Thomson
Review review-ietf-mile-rolie-10-artart-lc-thomson-2017-10-08
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Reviewed rev. 10 (document currently at 16)
Review result Almost Ready
Draft last updated 2017-10-08
Review completed: 2017-10-08


I have reviewed this document, and - despite what appears to be a lengthy list of issues - I think that it is in pretty good shape.  It's clear, readable, and addresses the requirements well.  Most of my comments should be trivial to resolve.


The decision to define a .well-known URI without a discovery story is - in my opinion - inadvisable.  Such a registration is usually appropriate if you design a protocol that depends on discovery by hostname and port.  As such, this does not use that at all.  A configuration system can (and should) accept a complete URI for the service endpoint.  It would be better to defer creation of yet another .well-known URI registration until the working group is certain that discovery requires it.

The same comment applies to the .well-known resource for the category document.  Given that this sort of document is readily discoverable via the service document, I would say that the need for a .well-known resource is less well-justified than the service document.

The requirements in Section 5.3 on TLS use are unnecessarily strict.  It's great to recommend the use of TLS 1.2, but given that the document has no real requirement on any particular version of TLS, the use of "MUST" here is not needed.  Similarly, the prohibition on the use of 0-RTT is groundless.  The lengthy list of requirements around certificate validation only risk creating a conflict with advice in other RFCs.  Many, if not all, of these requirements are transitively included by way of referencing HTTPS documents.  I would prefer to see this entire section reduced to a simple RFC 7525 reference.

User authentication is under-specified.

* Section 5.3 mandates the use of TLS cipher suites that support client authentication using certificates, but offers no further advice.  Aside from being an unnecessary requirement - cipher suites that support certificate-based authentication of servers all allow for client authentication - this sort of requirement is rarely sufficient for interoperation.  For instance, you need to specify how a server will request a certificate such that clients can select the correct certificate.  If a client and server have agreed to share information on terms that rely on authentication of clients, it is better for those peers to arrange the terms on which they will authenticate.

* Section 5.4 uses "SHOULD" regarding client authentication using federation, but offers no hints about what this entails.  It also uses "SHOULD" regarding authorization checks, which isn't an interoperability requirement.  It's more of a "don't be silly" type of requirement, which doesn't need to be written down in an RFC.

Section 5.5 prohibits the use of GET on "/".  This prohibits use of the resource for other purposes.  It seems reasonable to accept POST messages as defined in RFC 6546, but this requirement is overly strict (and further entrenches the violation of RFC 7320).  If, for instance, the server operator wishes to provide HTML in response to a GET request to "/", this would prohibit that.  The requirement to return 404 if RFC 6546 is not supported is worse; not supporting RFC 6546 might be a choice that a deployment makes to avoid the need to reserve "/" for that protocol.

In Section 6.2.3, what is the advantage of "rolie:format" over having a well-defined media type?  Media types can take advantage of content negotiation, existing support in link relations, and other existing tools.  This rolie:format element has namespace, format, and schema; these are not useful to anyone that is ignorant of their contents.  The only advantage I see is that syntax might be validated, but semantics can't be extracted.  There's a lot of implied work in adding this element, but that doesn't seem to be justified by that advantage.  (I see that RFC 7970 doesn't define a media type, but it seems like it would be easier to correct that than to define an element like this.)

Section 6.2.4 defines a generic key-value mechanism.  But that is something that XML is actually good at.  Why can't users that require additional metadata use additional metadata as originally defined by Atom?  That is, replace <rolie:property name="urn:ietf:params:rolie:property:csirt-iodef-id" value="12345"/> with something like <rolie:csirt-iodef-id>12345</rolie:csirt-iodef-id>.  The final paragraph of the section recognizes this possibility.


Section 5.1.1 recommends the use of workspaces to separate "private" and "public" information.  But workspaces don't really contain enough information to signal their status to a consumer of the information.  I would suggest mentioning this, removing the recommendation, or expanding on the manner in which the status of information is signaled.

Section 6.1.1 says "zero or more atom:category elements", but this contradicts the text and amendment to the schema in Section 6.1.

Section 6.1.3 requires updating the "atom:updated" element when the representation changes.  I don't think that this is what was intended.  I think that the element needs to be updated when the contents of the feed change in any way.

Question: it's fairly widely accepted that use of IRIs in Atom has been less than successful.  Do you want to mandate use of URIs instead?  This would apply to both link relations and the "src" attribute.

In Section 7.1, the definition of the namespace prefix "urn:ietf:params:rolie:category:local" seems unnecessary.  Namespace URIs are cheap and it seems reasonable to experiment with feeds that produce non-ROLIE information by omitting the "urn:ietf:params:rolie:category:information-type" category, even if that feed might comply with the requirements of ROLIE.  The other way to experiment would be to use the category, but define a way to identify "term" attributes that are for use in private or experimental contexts.

In Section 7.4, how is "...:rolie:property:content-author-name" superior to "atom:author"?

In Section 8.4,  is there a uniqueness requirement on "name"?  I understand this to be the thing that being registered.   Assuming that, what purpose does the "index" serve?

This statement from Section 9, "As described in the discovery section, DNS SRV Records are a possible secure solution to discovery." is false without further qualification.  SRV with DNSSEC might be secure, but a lot depends on the input to the discovery process and its provenance.

In Section 10, the following statement is false (all of the described privacy violations are available to a client or server, not third parties): "Proper usage of TLS as described in Section 5.3 will in many cases aid in the mitigation of these issues."  I think that you can strike this statement (most of the reason for use of TLS is justified by the security considerations anyway).


Is it "Feed" or "feed"?  RFC 4287 uses the latter, but this document seems to prefer the Proper Noun form.

Section 6.2 should say what changed in the schema.  It's hard to eyeball the schema to discover that "atomContent" is no longer optional.  The two new elements are easy to spot and might cause the first change to be missed.

Section 6.2.1 is the same.  It should explicitly say that it only permits the atomOutOfLineContent formulation.

I found the formulation of Section 7.1.1 confusing.  It includes a list that seems to be authoritative, then disclaims any attempt to register these terms.  Maybe this is because the statement "This document does not specify any information types." appears too late.  Some reordering might help.

The formatting of the table in Section 8.3 makes most of the columns unreadable.  I would recommend a simple nested list.

In section 9, the use of the term "well-known" to refer to information that is either public or widely available risks misinterpretation.  

FWIW, I would reword this entire paragraph to say simply "Access control to information published using ROLIE should use mechanisms that are appropriate to the sensitivity of the information.  Primitive authentication mechanisms like HTTP Basic Authentication [RFC7617] are rarely appropriate for sensitive information."  I didn't find the remainder of the text on authentication especially helpful.  The text seems to equivocate on the subject of federation, where it would be easier to say nothing.

Also in Section 9, the use of the term "message" is used in the context of using additional security controls.  I think that the word "representation" is what was intended here.