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Meeting Minutes Constrained RESTful Environments (core) WG
Date and time 2023-02-01 15:00
Title Minutes interim-2023-core-02: Wed 15:00
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minutes-interim-2023-core-02-202302011500-00

CoRE Virtual interim - 2023-02-01 - 15:00-16:30 UTC

Chairs:

  • Marco Tiloca, RISE
  • Jaime Jiménez, Ericsson
  • Carsten Bormann, TZI

Remote instructions

Material:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2023-core-02/session/core
Meetecho:
https://meetings.conf.meetecho.com/interim/?short=ee8e97a8-ca02-49bc-9580-2149fee246dd

Notes: https://notes.ietf.org/notes-ietf-interim-2023-core-02-core
Jabber: core@jabber.ietf.org
Zulip: https://zulip.ietf.org/#narrow/stream/21-core

Minute takers: Christian Amsüss, Rikard Höglund, Marco Tiloca (helping)

Jabber scribes: Marco Tiloca

Agenda

Note Well

Remember that the note well applies, for IPR but also for WG
processes
and code of conduct. Please be nice to each other.

MT introducing

Jabber & Minutes / Agenda bashing

No changes to the agenda

YANG Schema Item iDentifier (YANG SID)

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-core-sid/

CB presenting results from Design Team meeting 2023-01-26

CB: Discussed ways forward; in particular:

  • per-item status: unstable ➔ stable ➔ obsolete

CB: what should be in item status field? Decision: Could put lots of
information in there, but unclear how actionable that'd be. Instead,
revert to simpler state but add "obsolete" status.

  • per-sidfile status: unpublished (workfile) ➔ published (definitive)
  • published sidfiles can only contain stable/obsolete items

CB: If all entries are stable, apparently the file is stable. But better
to be explicit and indicate a published, definitive file. Tools should
never make decision on publication unless explicitly requested.
Discussed whether that should be reflected in file extension -- but
that'd cause tools issues, hence not pursued further.

  • #147 and #144

CB: out of scope now; they can be taken on in one or more further
documents, especially the whole annotation support. The map keys in JSON
can turn out having different meaning, but we don't want to do this here
for -sid.

To do:

CB: I will supply an updated response note to Rob to look at
CB: We will cover #139, #66 and #88 as needed and publish version -20

MT: Will version -20 also including Rob's comments?
CB: -20 will be base for Rob's next comments. If more input comes, we
would produce version -21.
MT: So we can expect updates in 2 weeks?
CB: Yes.

https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/core/ClSnTD4UQCqylzDsts2ho1WM6VE/

Should a link to any of these

be added in any of these registries that refer to RFC 7252?

MT: IANA wrote a mail regarding errata for CoAP. Should any of these be
linked in related registries (see below)?
MT: My take: None is really needed, one would not hurt (errata 4949
linked in the CoAP Option Numbers registry, just thinking of the
placeholders for future Location-* options; it would just give more
context).

CB: It would be difficult for people to understand why we are linking.
Extra explanation is needed, but where to put it (corr-clar document)?
MT: So, in case, it can come in corr-clar?
CB: Yeah.

CA: I agree we do not need to do this, it doesn't add to the registry.
MT: Yes. Other than this one, any other addition does not seem relevant
at all anyway.
CB: Except errata 4954, which changed the registry, but that has been
taken care of.
MT: I will reply to IANA that no link is needed to be added to the
registries.

CoRE Target Attribute Registry

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-core-target-attr/

CB: Planned submission before this meeting, but xml2rfc didn't
cooperate.
MT: Should come soon then; will be ready for WGLC?
CB: Yes, target-attr and the -core-oscore-edhoc should have synchronized
WGLC. Then both documents may have an updated version ready for the
Yokohama meeting.
MT: So we can start WGLC during next interim meeting?
CB: Yes, or right now (new version can be here today).
MT: Should the two of us handle each other's document? Or Jaime handles
both?
CB: Best if Jaime handles both documents.

AOB

CB: As a recap, this draft brings together IPPM mechanics with CoRE.
Both parties do not understand each other's material. So we will have
an introduction to IPPM, then consider working group adoption.
CA (on chat): Looking forward to the PM presentation