Minutes interim-2023-core-02: Wed 15:00
minutes-interim-2023-core-02-202302011500-00
Meeting Minutes | Constrained RESTful Environments (core) WG | |
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Date and time | 2023-02-01 15:00 | |
Title | Minutes interim-2023-core-02: Wed 15:00 | |
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Last updated | 2023-02-01 |
CoRE Virtual interim - 2023-02-01 - 15:00-16:30 UTC
Chairs:
- Marco Tiloca, RISE
- Jaime Jiménez, Ericsson
- Carsten Bormann, TZI
Remote instructions
Material:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2023-core-02/session/core
Meetecho:
https://meetings.conf.meetecho.com/interim/?short=ee8e97a8-ca02-49bc-9580-2149fee246dd
Notes: https://notes.ietf.org/notes-ietf-interim-2023-core-02-core
Jabber: core@jabber.ietf.org
Zulip: https://zulip.ietf.org/#narrow/stream/21-core
Minute takers: Christian Amsüss, Rikard Höglund, Marco Tiloca (helping)
Jabber scribes: Marco Tiloca
Agenda
Note Well
Remember that the note well applies, for IPR but also for WG
processes and code of conduct. Please be nice to each other.
MT introducing
Jabber & Minutes / Agenda bashing
No changes to the agenda
YANG Schema Item iDentifier (YANG SID)
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-core-sid/
CB presenting results from Design Team meeting 2023-01-26
CB: Discussed ways forward; in particular:
- per-item status: unstable ➔ stable ➔ obsolete
CB: what should be in item status field? Decision: Could put lots of
information in there, but unclear how actionable that'd be. Instead,
revert to simpler state but add "obsolete" status.
- per-sidfile status: unpublished (workfile) ➔ published (definitive)
- published sidfiles can only contain stable/obsolete items
CB: If all entries are stable, apparently the file is stable. But better
to be explicit and indicate a published, definitive file. Tools should
never make decision on publication unless explicitly requested.
Discussed whether that should be reflected in file extension -- but
that'd cause tools issues, hence not pursued further.
- #147 and #144
CB: out of scope now; they can be taken on in one or more further
documents, especially the whole annotation support. The map keys in JSON
can turn out having different meaning, but we don't want to do this here
for -sid.
To do:
CB: I will supply an updated response note to Rob to look at
CB: We will cover #139, #66 and #88 as needed and publish version -20
MT: Will version -20 also including Rob's comments?
CB: -20 will be base for Rob's next comments. If more input comes, we
would produce version -21.
MT: So we can expect updates in 2 weeks?
CB: Yes.
Link to RFC 7252 Errata in IANA registries
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/core/ClSnTD4UQCqylzDsts2ho1WM6VE/
Should a link to any of these
- https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid4949
- Location-* CoAP options are only in responses
-
MT: Would be easy to do, but just more context.
- A request payload, if present, is part of the cache key
be added in any of these registries that refer to RFC 7252?
- https://www.iana.org/assignments/core-parameters
- https://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv6-multicast-addresses
- https://www.iana.org/assignments/multicast-addresses
- https://www.iana.org/assignments/service-names-port-numbers
- https://www.iana.org/assignments/uri-schemes
MT: IANA wrote a mail regarding errata for CoAP. Should any of these be
linked in related registries (see below)?
MT: My take: None is really needed, one would not hurt (errata 4949
linked in the CoAP Option Numbers registry, just thinking of the
placeholders for future Location-* options; it would just give more
context).
CB: It would be difficult for people to understand why we are linking.
Extra explanation is needed, but where to put it (corr-clar document)?
MT: So, in case, it can come in corr-clar?
CB: Yeah.
CA: I agree we do not need to do this, it doesn't add to the registry.
MT: Yes. Other than this one, any other addition does not seem relevant
at all anyway.
CB: Except errata 4954, which changed the registry, but that has been
taken care of.
MT: I will reply to IANA that no link is needed to be added to the
registries.
CoRE Target Attribute Registry
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-core-target-attr/
CB: Planned submission before this meeting, but xml2rfc didn't
cooperate.
MT: Should come soon then; will be ready for WGLC?
CB: Yes, target-attr and the -core-oscore-edhoc should have synchronized
WGLC. Then both documents may have an updated version ready for the
Yokohama meeting.
MT: So we can start WGLC during next interim meeting?
CB: Yes, or right now (new version can be here today).
MT: Should the two of us handle each other's document? Or Jaime handles
both?
CB: Best if Jaime handles both documents.
AOB
- Next interim meeting on 2023-02-15
- Planned presentation of IPPM mechanics used in
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-fz-core-coap-pm/ --
pedagogical overview of building blocks.
CB: As a recap, this draft brings together IPPM mechanics with CoRE.
Both parties do not understand each other's material. So we will have
an introduction to IPPM, then consider working group adoption.
CA (on chat): Looking forward to the PM presentation