Minutes IETF113: bmwg
minutes-113-bmwg-00

BMWG Summary

BMWG met in Hybrid Mode, with about 22 people attending: most remote and 4
in-person, and without drama. The EVPN draft is officially Dead.  Co-chair
Sarah took the action to update the milestones. The WG drafts are both
proceeding: MLRsearch is undergoing re-write for clarity (example results
should be explained better). The Network Security Device authors will update
their draft and try to resolve DISCUSSes incrementally. One DISCUSS requires
TSV-dir re-review, and need to contact Tommy Pauly about this.

There are some good proposals to resolve The Objection on WG Adoption for the
YANG Model Draft (Title). Good progress on stateful NATxy draft (Action to try
for Adoption). Lots of new material and testing by the Containewrized
networking team. Two New Proposals on Segment Routing, for MPLS and IPv6,
respecitively. Both SR drafts need to follow updates to RFC 2544: Many sections
have been updated by later RFCs (e.g., RFC 8912 for Latency) and ETSI NFV
TST009 for virtualized DUT Benchmarking.

MINUTES

BMWG Session (IETF-113)
March 23, Wednesday, Morning session I
10:00-12:00 Local Time (Vienna, UTC+0100)
Start Times:
Chicago,US, UTC-0500 = 0400 CDT
San Francisco,US, UTC-0700 = 0200 PDT
Seoul, Korea, UTC+0900 = 1800

Park Suite 2 ops bmwg
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/113/agenda/

Agenda as of March 15, 2022

WG Status:

    Benchmarking Methodology for EVPN and PBB-EVPN
    https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bmwg-evpntest/
    status: Dead
        no discussion of this outcome.

Sarah will update milestones.

WG Drafts:

    Multiple Loss Ratio Search
    draft-ietf-bmwg-mlrsearch-00.txt
    https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-bmwg-mlrsearch-02
    status:
        started a larger rewrite of the MLRsearch draft
        lots of earlier material has been commented-out

    Benchmarking Methodology for Network Security Device Performance
    https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-bmwg-ngfw-performance-13
    status:
        Revised version needed following IESG Review
        SHOULD requirements and accompanying text - a discussion for everyone!
        Status of other review resolutions

                        Path forward: email out to ADs, deal with Discusses,
                        comments and Eventually, the SHOULDs could be lower
                        case sometimes, also adding the exception case OR
                        converting to SHALL/MUST. New updates of the draft can
                        make progress against DISCUSSes.

WG Adoption Review:

    A YANG Data Model for Network Interconnect Tester Management
    https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-vassilev-bmwg-network-interconnect-tester-07
    status:
        Still one objection, narrowed down to the title

                        the 4 noun string in the title should be considered,
                        but lets hear from the objector. Can make the title
                        shorter - can help withe the Abstract. Rob Wilton very
                        supportive of the work.

Proposals:

    Benchmarking Methodology for Stateful NATxy Gateways using RFC 4814
    Pseudorandom Port Numbers
    https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-lencse-bmwg-benchmarking-stateful-03
    status:
        ~5 people have discussed the draft on the list in May-July, 2021
        Reference to procedures in RFC 8219
        TCP-based testing = compliments the NG security device testing?
        Another revised version of the Draft available -
        novelties of the draft (and also some new measurement results)
        https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-lencse-v6ops-transition-scalability#section-2.4

                New material in this draft is measurement of Connection
                tear-down. Comments needed. Two experiments show the value.

    Considerations for Benchmarking Network Performance in Containerized
    Infrastructures
    https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-dcn-bmwg-containerized-infra-08
        Sharing updates and progress at previous Hackathon
        Tran Minh Ngoc presenting

                Lots of expansion and work in the hackathon events, resulting
                in much progress since the last time this draft was considered.
                Bill Fenner will send a comment suggesting paired- veth ports
                instead of returning to Vswitch Vratko has read the draft Need
                to see some reviews and comments on the list.

NEW !!

    Benchmarking Methodology for MPLS Segment Routing
    Related Draft:
    https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-vfv-bmwg-srmpls-bench-meth-01.txt

                    Some Benchmarks of RFC 2544 have been updated. See RFC 8912
                    for Latency and Delay Variation. ETSI NFV TST009 for
                    benchmarking Virual networking and virtual implementations
                    of DUT. Testing is always a good start for proof of
                    concepts in the draft. We don’t use “background” traffic in
                    this work. Need to see some reviews and comments on the
                    list.

    Benchmarking Methodology for IPv6 Segment Routing
    Related Draft:
    https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-vfv-bmwg-srv6-bench-meth-01.txt

                    Some Benchmarks of RFC 2544 have been updated. See RFC 8912
                    for Latency and Delay Variation. ETSI NFV TST009 for
                    benchmarking Virual networking and virtual implementations
                    of DUT. Testing is always a good start for proof of
                    concepts in the draft. We don’t use “background” traffic in
                    this work. Need to see some reviews and comments on the
                    list.

    AOB

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