Minutes interim-2020-cellar-02: Tue 21:00
minutes-interim-2020-cellar-02-202002252100-00

CELLAR -- DRAFT AGENDA for Virtual Interim Meeting
feburary  25, 2020     21:00 Amsterdam  ***
                       19:00 UTC
                       15:00 NYC
                       12:00 San Francisco

INFO:
   https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2020-cellar-02/session/cellar
   https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-interim-2020-cellar-02-cellar-01/

WEB CONFERENCE:
   https://whereby.com/cellar-interim
   THERE IS NO TELEPHONE DIALIN (You can try this at any time.)
   These notes at: https://github.com/cellar-wg/chair-notes

Present:
        1) Michael Richardson
        2) Martin Below
        3) Jerome Martinez
        4) Dave Rice
        5)

Regrets:
    1) Steve Lhomme
    2)

MEETING ADJOURNED DUE TO LACK OF QUORUM AT 21:10

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1. Note Well.  https://www.ietf.org/about/note-well/
2. Accept draft minutes from January 28 meeting (attached below)

3. Logistics for Meeting.
   2a) Etherpad for notes
       https://etherpad.ietf.org/p/notes-cellar-virtual?useMonospaceFont=true

   2b) APPEAR.IN is now called "whereby.com"
       https://whereby.com/cellar-interim

   2c) Roll call

4. WG status update
   * EBML -- version 17 was posted 2020-01-27
             IESG approved it, and it is now in RFC-editor queue.
             IANA has reviewed it, created registries.
             Guestimate is that RFC-editor will complete work by end of
             March, maybe sooner.

    proposed Designated Experts: Primary:     Dave Rice
                                Secondary:   Steve Lhomme and Moritz Bunz

   * FFV1 -- version 12 was posted 2020-01-28, AD waiting for our revisions.
   DAVE RICE will revise the todo and re-ping the list with the work.
   Jerome is lacking time, but is among the critical path for finishing this,
   along with Michael Niedermeyer.

        Some discussion about physical interim.

5. FFV1 issues.

6. Work on Matroska issues.

---- PREVIOUS NOTES

CELLAR -- DRAFT AGENDA for Virtual Interim Meeting
January  28, 2020      19:00 UTC
                       21:00 Amsterdam
                       15:00 NYC
                       12:00 San Francisco

PRESENT:
        1. Michael Richardson
        1. Spencer Dawkins
        1. Steve Lhomme
        1. Michael Niedermayer
        1. Jerome Martinez
        1. Dave Rice
        7. Martin Below

REGRETS:
        *

INFO:
   https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2020-cellar-01/session/cellar
   https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-interim-2020-cellar-01-cellar-01/

WEB CONFERENCE:
   https://whereby.com/cellar-interim
   THERE IS NO TELEPHONE DIALIN (You can try this at any time.)
   These notes at: https://github.com/cellar-wg/chair-notes

1. Note Well.  https://www.ietf.org/about/note-well/
2. Accept draft minutes from December 10 meeting (attached below)
        no objections or changes noted.

3. Logistics for Meeting.
   2a) Etherpad for notes
       https://etherpad.ietf.org/p/notes-cellar-virtual?useMonospaceFont=true

   2b) APPEAR.IN is now called "whereby.com"
       https://whereby.com/cellar-interim

   2c) Roll call

4. Welcome to Spencer Dawkins.

5. WG status update
   * EBML -- version 17 was posted 2020-01-27
      https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cellar-ebml/writeup/
      https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cellar-ebml/ballot/

    -17 believed to address all DISCUSS comments now.

   * FFV1 -- version 12 was posted 2020-1-28. Going to Adam Roach responsible AD
                                   doing review.

    - some issues made. Work is half-done.
    - Jerome will take the next move to close some of the To do items.

6. Work on Matroska issues.

** Start New Chapters Pull Request.
-> Conclusion that splitting chapters off into new document is not worth the
effort.

*** does not validate yet, but working on it.  More Text to explain what
Chapters do. *** pull request was too big, and has been split off into smaller
chunks to absorb.

Discussion: do we need some diagrams, etc. for the next meeting?
No: just go through some issues and deal with some concrete pull requests.
Updated, issue #354, that was lingering for some time because of EBML path
format, which is now clear in -17 of EBML, so now we can merge it.  It changes
half of the lines in the document, so need to do this now.

7. Any other business.

Next meeting: 2020-02-25.