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Synchronization Operations for Disconnected IMAP4 Clients
draft-melnikov-imap-disc-06

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Date Rev. By Action
2012-08-22
06 (System) post-migration administrative database adjustment to the No Objection position for Sam Hartman
2005-01-21
06 Amy Vezza State Changes to RFC Ed Queue from Approved-announcement sent by Amy Vezza
2005-01-19
06 Amy Vezza IESG state changed to Approved-announcement sent
2005-01-19
06 Amy Vezza IESG has approved the document
2005-01-19
06 Amy Vezza Closed "Approve" ballot
2004-12-17
06 Amy Vezza State Changes to Approved-announcement to be sent::Point Raised - writeup needed from IESG Evaluation by Amy Vezza
2004-12-17
06 (System) Removed from agenda for telechat - 2004-12-16
2004-12-16
06 Sam Hartman [Ballot Position Update] Position for Sam Hartman has been changed to No Objection from Discuss by Sam Hartman
2004-12-16
06 Bill Fenner [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Bill Fenner by Bill Fenner
2004-12-16
06 Russ Housley [Ballot comment]
Need to use "example.com" instead of "Blurdybloop.COM."
2004-12-16
06 Russ Housley [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Russ Housley by Russ Housley
2004-12-16
06 Harald Alvestrand
[Ballot comment]
Reviewed by John Loughney, Gen-ART. Editing pass suggested.

His review:

Summary: The document is ready, there are some small issues to clarify or …
[Ballot comment]
Reviewed by John Loughney, Gen-ART. Editing pass suggested.

His review:

Summary: The document is ready, there are some small issues to clarify or
clean-up.  I'd suggest an editorial pass on the document before submitting,
but I don't think a DISCUSS is in order. 

In general, the document is readable, but a bit converstation, so a tightening
up of the language would make sense.  Other issues are listed below.

Issues:

1) Draft header says:
IMAPEXT Working Group                                        A. Melnikov
Internet Draft: IMAP4 Disconnected Access                        Editor
Document: draft-melnikov-imap-disc-06.txt                  October 2004

But its an individual submission, so I think the IMAPEXT Working Group tag
should be removed.

2) Editorial comments with comments/questions marked by << and >> should be
  removed.

3) Missing IANA considerations section

Nits:
1) ToC would be nice.

2) The following text is too conversational, I suggest improving it.

  Let's call an IMAP command idempotent, if the result of executing the
  command twice sequentially is the same as the result of executing the
  command just once.
2004-12-16
06 Harald Alvestrand [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Harald Alvestrand by Harald Alvestrand
2004-12-16
06 Bert Wijnen [Ballot Position Update] Position for Bert Wijnen has been changed to No Objection from Undefined by Bert Wijnen
2004-12-16
06 Bert Wijnen
[Ballot comment]
$ idnits draft-melnikov-imap-disc-06.txt
idnits 1.57

draft-melnikov-imap-disc-06.txt:

  Checking nits according to http://www.ietf.org/ID-Checklist.html :

  * The document seems to lack an IANA …
[Ballot comment]
$ idnits draft-melnikov-imap-disc-06.txt
idnits 1.57

draft-melnikov-imap-disc-06.txt:

  Checking nits according to http://www.ietf.org/ID-Checklist.html :

  * The document seems to lack an IANA Considerations section.
    Checking conformance with RFC 3667/3668 boilerplate...
    the boilerplate looks good.
  * The document is more than 15 pages and seems to lack a Table of Contents.
  * There are 319 instances of too long lines in the document, the longest one being 23
    characters in excess of 72.


Further I notice examples (in sects 4.2.2.3 and 4.2.2.5 for example)
that do not follow the rules/guidelines for example domain names.
There are other places with same problem.
2004-12-16
06 Bert Wijnen [Ballot Position Update] New position, Undefined, has been recorded for Bert Wijnen by Bert Wijnen
2004-12-16
06 Michelle Cotton
[Note]: 'RFC Editor Note: In Section 3: OLD:   The special mailbox "INBOX" SHOULD always
        be considered "interesting". NEW: The special …
[Note]: 'RFC Editor Note: In Section 3: OLD:   The special mailbox "INBOX" SHOULD always
        be considered "interesting". NEW: The special mailbox "INBOX" SHOULD be in the default set of mailboxes
    that the client considers interesting.  However providing the ability
    to ignore INBOX for a particular session or client may be valuable for
    some mail filtering strategies. In Section 1.1 OLD:   Editorial comments/questions or missing paragraphs are marked in the
  text with << and >>. NEW: In Section 5: OLD: <> NEW' added by Michelle Cotton
2004-12-16
06 Michelle Cotton IANA Comments: We understand this document to have NO IANA Actions.
2004-12-15
06 Margaret Cullen [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Margaret Wasserman by Margaret Wasserman
2004-12-15
06 David Kessens [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for David Kessens by David Kessens
2004-12-15
06 Ted Hardie
[Note]: 'RFC Editor Note:

In Section 3:

OLD:

   The special mailbox "INBOX" SHOULD always
         be considered "interesting".

NEW:

The special …
[Note]: 'RFC Editor Note:

In Section 3:

OLD:

   The special mailbox "INBOX" SHOULD always
         be considered "interesting".

NEW:

The special mailbox "INBOX" SHOULD be in the default set of mailboxes
    that the client considers interesting.  However providing the ability
    to ignore INBOX for a particular session or client may be valuable for
    some mail filtering strategies.

In Section 1.1

OLD:

  Editorial comments/questions or missing paragraphs are marked in the
  text with << and >>.

NEW:


In Section 5:

OLD:

<>

NEW' added by Ted Hardie
2004-12-15
06 Scott Hollenbeck [Ballot Position Update] Position for Scott Hollenbeck has been changed to No Objection from Undefined by Scott Hollenbeck
2004-12-15
06 Sam Hartman
[Ballot discuss]
This spec requires that INBOX "Should always be considered interesting."

I think that is too strong of a requirement.  It's fairly easy,
especially …
[Ballot discuss]
This spec requires that INBOX "Should always be considered interesting."

I think that is too strong of a requirement.  It's fairly easy,
especially with sieve, for inbox to end up being the place where all
mail that cannot be classified ends up.  This seems like a reasonable
use of sieve and imap to me, but in that case you may well not want to
look at inbox from a low-bandwith client.

I'd propose something along the lines of

The special mailbox "INBOX" SHOULD be in the default set of mailboxes
that the client considers interesting.  However providing the ability
to ignore INBOX for a particular session or client may be valuable for
some mail filtering strategies.

I'm not tied to any particular text; I just want the requirement
weakened.
2004-12-15
06 Scott Hollenbeck
[Ballot comment]
The text in section 1.1 describing the editorial comment convention (Editorial comments/questions or missing paragraphs are marked in the text with << and …
[Ballot comment]
The text in section 1.1 describing the editorial comment convention (Editorial comments/questions or missing paragraphs are marked in the text with << and >>.) and the question in section 5 (<>) should be removed.

The definition of idempotency in section 1.1 could also be improved.

"Let's call an IMAP command idempotent, if the result of executing the command twice sequentially is the same as the result of executing the command just once."

sounds pretty wishy-washy.  This could be used instead:

"An IMAP command is idempotent if the effect of executing the command more than once sequentially is the same as the result of executing the command just once."

I've changed "result" to "effect" because it's possible for an idempotent operation to return a different response if it's executed multiple times.  What's important is the effect of the operation.

Missing IANA Considerations.
2004-12-15
06 Sam Hartman [Ballot Position Update] New position, Discuss, has been recorded for Sam Hartman by Sam Hartman
2004-12-15
06 Scott Hollenbeck [Ballot Position Update] New position, Undefined, has been recorded for Scott Hollenbeck by Scott Hollenbeck
2004-12-14
06 Ted Hardie State Changes to IESG Evaluation from Waiting for AD Go-Ahead by Ted Hardie
2004-12-14
06 Ted Hardie [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Ted Hardie
2004-12-14
06 Ted Hardie Ballot has been issued by Ted Hardie
2004-12-14
06 Ted Hardie Created "Approve" ballot
2004-12-13
06 (System) State has been changed to Waiting for AD Go-Ahead from In Last Call by system
2004-12-09
06 Ted Hardie Area acronymn has been changed to app from gen
2004-12-09
06 Ted Hardie Placed on agenda for telechat - 2004-12-16 by Ted Hardie
2004-11-15
06 Amy Vezza Last call sent
2004-11-15
06 Amy Vezza State Changes to In Last Call from Last Call Requested by Amy Vezza
2004-11-15
06 Ted Hardie State Changes to Last Call Requested from AD Evaluation by Ted Hardie
2004-11-15
06 Ted Hardie Last Call was requested by Ted Hardie
2004-11-15
06 (System) Ballot writeup text was added
2004-11-15
06 (System) Last call text was added
2004-11-15
06 (System) Ballot approval text was added
2004-10-29
06 Ted Hardie Given the connection to LEMONADE, I'm taking this one, though Scott has also seen it and
it will be discussed with IMAPEXT folk
2004-10-29
06 Ted Hardie Draft Added by Ted Hardie in state AD Evaluation
2004-10-25
06 (System) New version available: draft-melnikov-imap-disc-06.txt
2004-09-09
05 (System) New version available: draft-melnikov-imap-disc-05.txt
2004-08-31
04 (System) New version available: draft-melnikov-imap-disc-04.txt
2004-01-20
03 (System) New version available: draft-melnikov-imap-disc-03.txt
2002-10-16
02 (System) New version available: draft-melnikov-imap-disc-02.txt
2002-08-16
01 (System) New version available: draft-melnikov-imap-disc-01.txt
2002-06-21
00 (System) New version available: draft-melnikov-imap-disc-00.txt