Framework for Real-Time Text over IP Using the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP)
draft-ietf-sipping-toip-09
Yes
(Jon Peterson)
No Objection
(Lars Eggert)
(Magnus Westerlund)
(Mark Townsley)
(Ron Bonica)
(Ross Callon)
(Russ Housley)
(Tim Polk)
Abstain
Note: This ballot was opened for revision 09 and is now closed.
Jari Arkko Former IESG member
(was Discuss)
Yes
Yes
(2007-12-17)
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Jon Peterson Former IESG member
Yes
Yes
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Chris Newman Former IESG member
No Objection
No Objection
(2007-12-20)
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I support Jari's discuss but trust him to hold it for resolution. The document makes a lot of recommendations (45) and while many are excellent, I'm dubious they'll all be followed in practice. I commend the authors for considering user interface issues seriously in the requirements. The IETF has a track record of under-specifying user-interface considerations and that has resulted in less successful protocols. However, some of those should perhaps be treated as "considerations" rather than requirements. The acronym expansion for "UTF-8" is incorrect. It should be: UCS/Unicode Transformation Format This requirement: R13: A ToIP service MUST be able to deal with international character sets. is incorrectly worded as only one character set is mandated (Unicode). One possible re-wording would be "A ToIP service MUST comply with the character set policy in RFC 2277." But other approaches also work. An informative reference to draft-klensin-net-utf8 may pick up some issues with interoperability and text canonicalization that may not be covered in ITU-T T.140. However, as I haven't read ITU-T T.140 I can't say how consistent the other advice would be.
David Ward Former IESG member
No Objection
No Objection
(2007-12-19)
Unknown
I agree w/ Cullen but, will let him hold the discuss.
Lars Eggert Former IESG member
(was No Record, No Objection)
No Objection
No Objection
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Magnus Westerlund Former IESG member
No Objection
No Objection
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Mark Townsley Former IESG member
No Objection
No Objection
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Ron Bonica Former IESG member
No Objection
No Objection
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Ross Callon Former IESG member
No Objection
No Objection
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Russ Housley Former IESG member
(was Discuss)
No Objection
No Objection
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Tim Polk Former IESG member
No Objection
No Objection
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Cullen Jennings Former IESG member
(was Discuss)
Abstain
Abstain
(2008-03-17)
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I don't think this document should describe itself as a framework - it has lots of requirements many of which I think are excellent, but it is lacking something that could be considered a complete frameworks for real time text. It makes recommendations well outside the scope of the sipping charter - many of which I doubt more than a very small handful of people have read. I'll poke on section 6.2.4.4 as one specific example.