Concise Binary Object Representation (CBOR)
draft-bormann-cbor-09
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2013-09-16
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2013-09-16
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09 | Amy Vezza | State changed to RFC Ed Queue from Approved-announcement sent |
2013-09-13
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2013-09-13
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09 | (System) | Announcement was received by RFC Editor |
2013-09-13
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09 | Amy Vezza | State changed to Approved-announcement sent from Approved-announcement to be sent |
2013-09-13
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09 | Amy Vezza | IESG has approved the document |
2013-09-13
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09 | Amy Vezza | Closed "Approve" ballot |
2013-09-13
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09 | Amy Vezza | Ballot approval text was generated |
2013-09-13
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09 | Barry Leiba | State changed to Approved-announcement to be sent from IESG Evaluation::AD Followup |
2013-09-12
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09 | Paul Hoffman | New version available: draft-bormann-cbor-09.txt |
2013-09-02
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08 | Stephen Farrell | [Ballot comment] Thanks for the definite length answer that cleared up my discuss point :-) ----- Comments below here are the original ones for -06. … [Ballot comment] Thanks for the definite length answer that cleared up my discuss point :-) ----- Comments below here are the original ones for -06. - I'm not sure I agree that the IETF LC result was that clear. ISTM that there were more voices arguing coherently that CBOR isn't ready for PS yet, or that a WG should consider this topic further. - I no longer buy the argument that you're meeting the stated design goals - a fully featured library for all this will have a lot of code. Absent some openwrt-like build process that'll not be so useful, and I don't think that selection of CBOR specific features is likely to be understandable to most application designers. - abstract: the design goals don't make the result different, rather the designer does that and we have no idea if CBOR will or will not be similar to some future encoding format. - I don't think the lwig class 1 is well defined and nor do I think this ought reference it. - I can see major confusion as to when to use types 2 or 3. I think better guidance would be good here in the form of a (set of) "do that" and "don't do that" statements. I realise that might be guesswork right now, but if you don't guess now, and CBOR doesn't fail, I bet bad practices will grow up that cause problems. - this still reminds me of BEEP, sorry;-) |
2013-09-02
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08 | Stephen Farrell | [Ballot Position Update] Position for Stephen Farrell has been changed to No Objection from Discuss |
2013-09-01
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08 | Adrian Farrel | [Ballot comment] Thank you for working speedily to address my Discuss and Comments. I have one small point remaining as captured from the email thread.... … [Ballot comment] Thank you for working speedily to address my Discuss and Comments. I have one small point remaining as captured from the email thread.... > > I don't think you particularly made the case for the need for CBOR > > compared with, for example, ASN.1 BER. I actually think it detracts > > from your document to make the claim of being better than ASN.1 BER, and > > I would prefer your document to just get on with defining CBOR and > > showing how it works. > > We were asked repeatedly for the comparison during the early discussion. Yes, I can well believe that the comparison was requested. My point is that I don't think you have made much of a comparison. The only point made is that the serialized output for BER is "not particularly compact for many items" and that "the code needed to decode numeric items can be complex on a constrained device." I haven't done the cross-check, but I did wonder whether some of the "not particularly compact" cases were for items that are not present in CBOR, and whether you were comparing like with like for numeric items. But this is not a big issue for me, and if you make no change for it I will not cry. |
2013-09-01
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08 | Adrian Farrel | [Ballot Position Update] Position for Adrian Farrel has been changed to No Objection from Discuss |
2013-08-30
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08 | Paul Hoffman | New version available: draft-bormann-cbor-08.txt |
2013-08-30
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07 | Paul Hoffman | IANA Review state changed to Version Changed - Review Needed from IANA - Not OK |
2013-08-30
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07 | Paul Hoffman | New version available: draft-bormann-cbor-07.txt |
2013-08-29
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06 | Cindy Morgan | State changed to IESG Evaluation::AD Followup from IESG Evaluation |
2013-08-29
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06 | Joel Jaeggli | [Ballot comment] Having heard the dicussion on the status, and whated it play out on the IETF list, I'm moving to no objection. specifically not … [Ballot comment] Having heard the dicussion on the status, and whated it play out on the IETF list, I'm moving to no objection. specifically not objecting the status of PS. |
2013-08-29
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06 | Joel Jaeggli | [Ballot Position Update] Position for Joel Jaeggli has been changed to No Objection from Abstain |
2013-08-29
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06 | Pete Resnick | [Ballot Position Update] Position for Pete Resnick has been changed to Yes from Discuss |
2013-08-29
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06 | Cindy Morgan | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Sean Turner by Cindy Morgan |
2013-08-29
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06 | Ted Lemon | [Ballot comment] I would like to hear more about how consensus was determined on this document, but I don't object to it in principle. |
2013-08-29
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06 | Ted Lemon | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Ted Lemon |
2013-08-29
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06 | Jari Arkko | [Ballot comment] Thank you for writing a useful and much needed document. I think it has solid backing from those who build these "things". I … [Ballot comment] Thank you for writing a useful and much needed document. I think it has solid backing from those who build these "things". I would probably personally have wanted to see slightly simpler format, but YMMV. I'm very supportive of publishing this as an RFC, though as other ADs have said, perhaps it would be enough to make it Informational or at least state that it is "a way" to package data. |
2013-08-29
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06 | Jari Arkko | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Jari Arkko |
2013-08-29
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06 | Martin Stiemerling | [Ballot comment] I don't see that this has to go for standards track. However, Pete has raised this in his ballot already. |
2013-08-29
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06 | Martin Stiemerling | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Martin Stiemerling |
2013-08-28
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06 | (System) | IANA Review state changed to IANA - Not OK from Version Changed - Review Needed |
2013-08-28
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06 | Pearl Liang | in tracker IANA Actions - YES This review is completed based on draft-bormann-cbor-06. IANA has questions about some actions requested in the IANA Considerations Section … in tracker IANA Actions - YES This review is completed based on draft-bormann-cbor-06. IANA has questions about some actions requested in the IANA Considerations Section of this document. IANA has a comment for one of the requested actions. IANA Question -> this version did not clearly say if this CBOR Simple Values registry and the CBOR Tags registry should be stand-alone registries or grouped together in a master repository for current and future CBOR registries. Please confirm that. We received the following comments/questions from the IANA's reviewer: IANA understands that, upon approval of this document, there are five actions which IANA needs to complete. First, a new registry will be created called the "CBOR Simple Values" registry. Maintenance of the registry is done using the following requirements as defined in RFC 5226: 0-19 - allocated through standards action 24-31 - reserved 32-255 - allocated through specification required Note: It is suggested that these Standards Actions allocate values starting with the number 16 in order to reserve the lower numbers for any contiguous block. There are initial values in the registry, as follows: Value Semantics Reference ----------- ---------------------- ---------------- 0-19 Unassigned 20 False [ RFC-to-be ] 21 True [ RFC-to-be ] 22 Null [ RFC-to-be ] 23 Undefined value [ RFC-to-be ] 24-31 Reserved 32-255 Unassigned Second, a new registry will be created called the "CBOR Tags" registry. The registration rules for the new registry are as follows: 0-23 - Standards Action 24-255 - Specification Required 256-18446744073709551615 - First Come First Served There are initial registrations in this new registry and all (except for unallocated) will have a reference of [ RFC-to-be ]. +--------------+------------------+---------------------------------+ | tag | data item | semantics | +--------------+------------------+---------------------------------+ | 0 | UTF-8 string | Standard date/time string; | | | | | | 1 | multiple | Epoch-based date/time; | | | | | | 2 | byte string | Positive bignum; | | | | | | 3 | byte string | Negative bignum; | | | | | | 4 | array | Decimal fraction; | | | | | | 5 | array | Bigfloat; | | | | | | 6..20 | (Unassigned) | (Unassigned) | | | | | | 21 | multiple | Expected conversion to | | | | base64url encoding; | | | | | | 22 | multiple | Expected conversion to base64 | | | | encoding; | | | | | | 23 | multiple | Expected conversion to base16 | | | | encoding; | | | | | | 24 | byte string | Encoded CBOR data item; | | | | | | 25..31 | (Unassigned) | (Unassigned) | | | | | | 32 | UTF-8 string | URI; | | | | | | 33 | UTF-8 string | Base64url; | | | | | | 34 | UTF-8 string | Base64; | | | | | | 35 | UTF-8 string | Regular expression; | | | | | | 36 | UTF-8 string | MIME message; | | | | | | 37..55798 | (Unassigned) | (Unassigned) | | | | | | 55799 | multiple | Self-describe CBOR; | | | | | | 55800+ | (Unassigned) | (Unassigned) | +--------------+------------------+---------------------------------+ Third, this document requests adding a media type to the applications media type registry located at: http://www.iana.org/assignments/media-types/application/index.html The media type to be added is: cbor Fourth, in the CoAP Content-Formats registry located at: http://www.iana.org/assignments/core-parameters the following Content-Format will be added to the registry: Media type: application/cbor Encoding: ID: 60 Reference: [ RFC-to-be ] Fifth, in the Structured Syntax Suffix Registry located at: http://www.iana.org/assignments/media-type-structured-suffix a new suffix will be registered as follows: Name: Concise Binary Object Representation (CBOR) +suffix: +cbor References: [ RFC-to-be ] Encoding considerations: CBOR is a binary format. Fragment identifier considerations: The syntax and semantics of fragment identifiers specified for +cbor SHOULD be as specified for "application/cbor". (At publication of this document, there is no fragment identification syntax defined for "application/cbor".) The syntax and semantics for fragment identifiers for a specific "xxx/yyy+cbor" SHOULD be processed as follows: For cases defined in +cbor, where the fragment identifier resolves per the +cbor rules, then process as specified in +cbor. For cases defined in +cbor, where the fragment identifier does not resolve per the +cbor rules, then process as specified in "xxx/yyy+cbor". For cases not defined in +cbor, then process as specified in "xxx/yyy+cbor". Interoperability considerations: n/a Security considerations: See Section 8 of [ RFC-to-be ] Contact: Apps Area Working Group (apps-discuss at ietf.org) Author/Change controller: The Apps Area Working Group. NOTE: The Structured Syntax Suffix Registry is managed through Expert Review as per RFC 6838. IANA will initiate a request for a new suffix and send this to the designated expert (Ned Freed) for review. IANA understands that these five actions are the only ones required upon approval of this document. Thank you, Pearl Liang ICANN On Thu Aug 22 19:03:07 2013, iesg-secretary@ietf.org wrote: > Evaluation for can be found at > http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-bormann-cbor/ > > Last call to expire on: 2013-08-13 00:00 > > > Please return the full line with your position. > > Yes No-Objection Discuss Abstain > Barry Leiba [ X ] [ ] [ ] [ ] > > > "Yes" or "No-Objection" positions from 2/3 of non-recused ADs, > with no "Discuss" positions, are needed for approval. > > DISCUSSES AND COMMENTS > =========== > ? > ---- following is a DRAFT of message to be sent AFTER approval --- > From: The IESG > To: IETF-Announce > Cc: RFC Editor > Subject: Protocol Action: 'Concise Binary Object Representation > (CBOR)' to Proposed Standard (draft-bormann-cbor-04.txt) > > The IESG has approved the following document: > - 'Concise Binary Object Representation (CBOR)' > (draft-bormann-cbor-04.txt) as Proposed Standard > > This document has been reviewed in the IETF but is not the product of > an > IETF Working Group. > > The IESG contact person is Barry Leiba. > > A URL of this Internet Draft is: > http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-bormann-cbor/ > > > > > Technical Summary > > CBOR (Concise Binary Object Representation) is a new binary format for > data structures. It is intended to be semantically similar to JSON, > to be easy to encode and decode even in very constrained environments, > to allow extensions without versioning, and to be reasonably compact. > It is intended to provide a standard format that applications can use > to exchange structured data, so the requested publication type is > Proposed Standard. > > Review and Consensus > > The announcement of the -00 version on the appsawg list on 22 May > provoked a blizzard of about 100 messages over the following three > days. Several people asked whether the world needed yet another > binary JSON format. The authors offered to add a discussion of other > similar formats and how CBOR differs from them. > > A few people asked whether there should be a canonical version of > CBOR. The authors explained why there isn't, but offered to add > a discussion of how one might be defined as an extension. > > Others noted that all CBOR formats start with a length or count field, > making streaming implementations difficult since they would have to > buffer up potentially large amounts of data. After some back and > forth, the authors offered to add chunked subformats and uncounted > formats that use an end tag. > > One person noted that the discussion of translation to and from JSON > said that CBOR bignums be translated to JSON integers, which would > often lead to loss of precision in JSON implementations and suggested > that the translation instead be to encoded binary data, to which the > authors agreed. > > One other person expressed dissatisfaction with CBOR and sketched out > the rudiments of an alternative, although he has not (as far as I can > tell) further developed it. Nine people participated in the > discussion. > > After the announcement of the -01 version on 29 May, there were about > a dozen messages from the same people, generally positive and > discussing minor technical issues. > > After the announcement of the -02 version later the same day, > responding to that day's comments, there were no further messages, > suggesting that the issues were handled to the satisfaction of the > people in the discussion. > > There are at least four implementations, in Python, Ruby, Javascript, > and Java. > > There are no outstanding technical issues. The end of section 7 has a > TBD that should be deleted. > > During Last Call, the major issue involved whether it was appropriate > to > publish CBOR as Proposed Standard. Phillip Hallam-Baker opined that > Experimental would be appropriate, and that for Proposed Standard it > would > be preferable to have a working group hash out the use cases and > design > criteria first, and agree on those before proposing one or mote > standards. > There was some support for this position, but no serious and reasoned > objection, and in the end, consensus was clearly toward putting CBOR > forth > as a *Proposed Standard*, with the option of other proposals in > future. > > Personnel > > The Responsible Area Director is Barry Leiba, and the Document > Shepherd is John Levine > > |
2013-08-28
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06 | Richard Barnes | [Ballot comment] I agree with Pete's concern that this should probably not be PS. It seems like Informational would be sufficient. It would be helpful … [Ballot comment] I agree with Pete's concern that this should probably not be PS. It seems like Informational would be sufficient. It would be helpful in Table 1 and Table 2 if you could include the hex values for the whole initial octet, for the values displayed (0xFF for stop code, 0xF4 for False, etc.) The tag system described in Section 2.3 / 2.4 seems like a whole lot of unnecessary complexity, especially for things like "URI" and "base64url". |
2013-08-28
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06 | Richard Barnes | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Richard Barnes |
2013-08-27
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06 | Stewart Bryant | [Ballot comment] I have no objection to the publication of this information, but support the discusses raised. I agree with Pete's concern about why this … [Ballot comment] I have no objection to the publication of this information, but support the discusses raised. I agree with Pete's concern about why this is PS and not Experimental. It may even reasonably be Informational, but PS expresses a level of endorsement that does not seem justified. I have concerns as to how well this has been reviewed, and wonder how many people, independent of the authors, have done a line by line verification of the correctness of the text. |
2013-08-27
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06 | Stewart Bryant | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Stewart Bryant |
2013-08-27
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06 | Barry Leiba | Changed document writeup |
2013-08-27
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06 | Joel Jaeggli | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Abstain, has been recorded for Joel Jaeggli |
2013-08-26
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06 | Pete Resnick | [Ballot discuss] This is one of those DISUCSSes where I want to say to the authors: "Don't panic!" I want to have this DISCUSSion because … [Ballot discuss] This is one of those DISUCSSes where I want to say to the authors: "Don't panic!" I want to have this DISCUSSion because I'm really not sure I know the answer; I'm not saying, "I think this is wrong and I want some time to explain why it is wrong." So please indulge me if you would. I'd like to hear some more about why PS is appropriate for this instead of Experimental. This was not the product of a chartered work item where people understood and came to consensus on what problem they were trying to solve and then came to consensus on the solution. Instead, some individuals had an idea about a problem to solve (which is not completely explicit), solved it, and asked for endorsement of the IETF. I'd like to think we'd reserve that tool for things that we know fill a well-known gap. Conversely, I'd like to see what this gets used for and how well it works, so having a section on "how we're going to tell if this is getting good deployment" (which I think should be in any Experimental document) seems like a good thing. What's the advantage at this point of declaring this an IETF Proposed Standard as against letting this run as an experiment for a while? I might understand that Barry thought this was important enough that it warranted IETF attention rather than simply ISE attention, but I'm still not clear on PS vs. Exp. |
2013-08-26
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06 | Pete Resnick | [Ballot comment] 2.2: See my followup note to Stephen's DISCUSS, but paragraphs 2 and 3 need to be rewritten. 2.3: As with all other … [Ballot comment] 2.2: See my followup note to Stephen's DISCUSS, but paragraphs 2 and 3 need to be rewritten. 2.3: As with all other major types, the 5-bit value 24 signifies a single- byte extension: it is followed by an additional byte to represent the simple value (to minimize confusion, only the values 32 to 255 are used). I see no reason to limit the simple value to 32..255 if the additional information is 24. You don't limit that in any other types. I see no reason I should not be able to represent 'True' as either 0b111_10101 or as 0b111_11000 0b00010101. There is no such restriction on integer types, you're making something invalid that doesn't have to be (potentially making implementations less interoperable, because some will reject things while others will accept them), and restricting it seems to go against the comment in section 1.1, sub 1, second bullet. Please explain. (Not that if you change this, you also need to update section 3.2 and 3.9.) It's also not clear to me why 'False' is not 0 and 'True' is not 1; it seems like it would be easier to implement on many platforms. 2.4: Applications may use specific tags defined in the following list and/ or defined by standard action or in the registry. I think you should strike "by standard action or" and rewrite this to: Applications may use specific tags defined in the Tags Registry (section 7.2), which initially includes the tags in the following list. 2.4.1: Why is the numeric time value not NTP format, with fixed-point fractional seconds? Doing so would make more sense given section 1.1, sub 1. 3.4: I don't understand why "Inadmissible type on the value following a tag" gets treated differently than other semantic errors. Other semantic errors basically make the behavior decoder-defined. But this one say that a certain kind of decoder "is expected to check the type of the enclosed data item." The same could be said for a decoder that decodes a UTF-8 string into a native string representation. Either put an onus on semantic validity or don't, for all of them. 4: "This section gives non-normative advice". Is there any other kind? |
2013-08-26
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06 | Pete Resnick | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Discuss, has been recorded for Pete Resnick |
2013-08-26
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06 | Adrian Farrel | [Ballot discuss] I basically have no objection to the publication of this document although I am very sympathetic to the view that this work did … [Ballot discuss] I basically have no objection to the publication of this document although I am very sympathetic to the view that this work did not get detailed or wide review in the IETF. However, I am pretty sure that you have a number of references listed as Informative when they should be Normative. Just a random example, RFC 3339 is cited in Section 2.4.1 as describing the date/time format for tag=0. That would appear to make RFC 3339 a normative reference. I think you will find a number of similar examples. Even [I-D.ietf-lwig-terminology] seems to be used in a normative way in section 1.1 in that I cannot understand objective 2 without reading the definition of "constrained node" in that document. |
2013-08-26
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06 | Adrian Farrel | [Ballot comment] Here are a few points for consideration... --- The Abstract says These design goals make it different from earlier binary serializations … [Ballot comment] Here are a few points for consideration... --- The Abstract says These design goals make it different from earlier binary serializations such as ASN.1 and MessagePack, or other binary serializations that may be created in the future. How can you say that CBOR is different from other mechanisms that may be created in the future? That seems like gratuitous marketing hype! --- Section 1 para 2 The serialization is for an extended version of the JSON data model [RFC4627]. I couldn't establish any context or this statement. What does "The serialization" refer to? I think you are using a term that has a technical definition common in this sphere, but not exlpained to the reader. --- "Text string" or "Stings of Unicode characters"? Section 2.1 defines Major type 3 as "string of Unicode characters that is encoded as UTF-8", but Section 2.2 and later sections talk about "text strings". Consistent language would help. --- Section 2.2 Text strings with indefinite lengths act the same as byte strings with indefinite lengths, except that all enclosed items (chunks) MUST be text strings. Note that this implies that the bytes of a single UTF-8 character cannot be spread between items: a new item can only be started at a character boundary. I don't think you need "MUST be" where "are" would do. Compare with your definition of "Major type 3" in Section 2.1 --- Section 2.4 Decoders do not need to understand tags, and thus tags are probably of little value in applications where the implementation creating a particular CBOR data item and the implementation decoding that stream know the semantic meaning of each item in the data flow. I don't like statements of "probability" like this. Is there any way you can clean up the words? --- Section 2.4 Applications may use specific tags defined in the following list and/ or defined by standard action or in the registry. What does this text actually mean? Would it be better to say... IANA maintains a registry of tag values as described in Section 7.2. Table 3 provides a list of initial values. --- I don't think you particularly made the case for the need for CBOR compared with, for example, ASN.1 BER. I actually think it detracts from your document to make the claim of being better than ASN.1 BER, and I would prefer your document to just get on with defining CBOR and showing how it works. |
2013-08-26
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06 | Adrian Farrel | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Discuss, has been recorded for Adrian Farrel |
2013-08-26
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06 | Spencer Dawkins | [Ballot comment] I can't emphasize enough that binary encoding/decoding has been outside my areas of expertise since I was using ASN.1 in 1991, so please … [Ballot comment] I can't emphasize enough that binary encoding/decoding has been outside my areas of expertise since I was using ASN.1 in 1991, so please weigh these comments appropriately. In the Abstract The Concise Binary Object Representation (CBOR) is a data format whose design goals include the possibility of extremely small code size, fairly small message size, and extensibility without the need for version negotiation. These design goals make it different from earlier binary serializations such as ASN.1 and MessagePack, or other binary serializations that may be created in the future. I find a statement about why CBOR differs from other binary serializations that don't exist yet to be odd :-) In 3.5. Handling Unknown Simple Values and Tags A decoder that comes across a tag (Section 2.4) that it does not recognize, such as a tag that was added to the IANA registry after the decoder was deployed or a tag that the decoder chose not to implement, might issue a warning, might stop processing altogether, might handle the error and present the unknown tag value together with the contained data item to the application (as is expected of generic decoders), might ignore the tag and simply present the contained data item only to the application, or take some other type of action. Just checking - is this level of flexibility normal for decoders? I wouldn't be surprised if the answer is "yes", but I'm reading this paragraph as saying "if you send a CBOR decoder a tag that it doesn't recognize, you can't be surprised at anything that happens next" - is that an accurate paraphrase? In 5.1. Extension Points o the "additional information" space. An implementation receiving an unknown additional information has no way to continue parsing, so allocating codepoints to this space is a major step. There are also very few codepoints left. Having lived through a couple of "allocating the last bit" exercises with other protocols, I'm wondering if there is any alternative to approving a proposed standard that's intended to be useful for decades, with an almost-exhausted "additional information" space when it goes out the door. If there's not ... at least, I asked. |
2013-08-26
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06 | Spencer Dawkins | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Spencer Dawkins |
2013-08-24
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06 | Stephen Farrell | [Ballot discuss] - Surely 2.2 needs to say how to embed a "break" value into a byte string (etc.) value - yet you don't - … [Ballot discuss] - Surely 2.2 needs to say how to embed a "break" value into a byte string (etc.) value - yet you don't - what is the indefinite length encoding of a very long byte string of "break" values? Or am I misreading something? |
2013-08-24
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06 | Stephen Farrell | [Ballot comment] - I'm not sure I agree that the IETF LC result was that clear. ISTM that there were more voices arguing coherently that … [Ballot comment] - I'm not sure I agree that the IETF LC result was that clear. ISTM that there were more voices arguing coherently that CBOR isn't ready for PS yet, or that a WG should consider this topic further. - I no longer buy the argument that you're meeting the stated design goals - a fully featured library for all this will have a lot of code. Absent some openwrt-like build process that'll not be so useful, and I don't think that selection of CBOR specific features is likely to be understandable to most application designers. - abstract: the design goals don't make the result different, rather the designer does that and we have no idea if CBOR will or will not be similar to some future encoding format. - I don't think the lwig class 1 is well defined and nor do I think this ought reference it. - I can see major confusion as to when to use types 2 or 3. I think better guidance would be good here in the form of a (set of) "do that" and "don't do that" statements. I realise that might be guesswork right now, but if you don't guess now, and CBOR doesn't fail, I bet bad practices will grow up that cause problems. - this still reminds me of BEEP, sorry;-) |
2013-08-24
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06 | Stephen Farrell | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Discuss, has been recorded for Stephen Farrell |
2013-08-22
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06 | Jean Mahoney | Request for Telechat review by GENART is assigned to Martin Thomson |
2013-08-22
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06 | Jean Mahoney | Request for Telechat review by GENART is assigned to Martin Thomson |
2013-08-22
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06 | Barry Leiba | State changed to IESG Evaluation from Waiting for Writeup |
2013-08-22
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06 | Barry Leiba | Ballot has been issued |
2013-08-22
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06 | Barry Leiba | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Barry Leiba |
2013-08-22
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06 | Barry Leiba | Created "Approve" ballot |
2013-08-22
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06 | Barry Leiba | Ballot writeup was changed |
2013-08-22
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06 | Barry Leiba | Changed document writeup |
2013-08-22
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06 | Paul Hoffman | New version available: draft-bormann-cbor-06.txt |
2013-08-16
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05 | Tero Kivinen | Request for Last Call review by SECDIR Completed: Has Nits. Reviewer: Matt Lepinski. |
2013-08-14
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05 | Carsten Bormann | IANA Review state changed to Version Changed - Review Needed from IANA - Not OK |
2013-08-14
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05 | Carsten Bormann | New version available: draft-bormann-cbor-05.txt |
2013-08-13
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04 | (System) | State changed to Waiting for Writeup from In Last Call |
2013-08-12
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04 | Barry Leiba | Removed telechat returning item indication |
2013-08-12
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04 | Barry Leiba | Telechat date has been changed to 2013-08-29 from 2013-08-15 |
2013-08-08
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04 | Jean Mahoney | Request for Telechat review by GENART is assigned to Martin Thomson |
2013-08-08
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04 | Jean Mahoney | Request for Telechat review by GENART is assigned to Martin Thomson |
2013-07-23
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04 | (System) | IANA Review state changed to IANA - Not OK from IANA - Review Needed |
2013-07-23
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04 | Pearl Liang | IESG/Authors/WG Chairs: IANA has reviewed draft-bormann-cbor-04. Authors should review the comments and/or questions below. Please report any inaccuracies and respond to any questions as soon … IESG/Authors/WG Chairs: IANA has reviewed draft-bormann-cbor-04. Authors should review the comments and/or questions below. Please report any inaccuracies and respond to any questions as soon as possible. We received the following comments/questions from the IANA's reviewer: IANA has questions about the IANA actions requested in this document. IANA understands that, upon approval of this document, there are three actions which IANA must complete. First, a new registry will be created called the "CBOR Simple Values" registry. IANA Question -> should this registry and the CBOR Tags registry be stand-alone registries or grouped together in a master repository for current and future CBOR registries? Maintenance of the registry is done using the following requirements as defined in RFC 5226 0-19 - allocated through standards action 24-31 - reserved 32-255 - allocated through specification required There are initial values in the registry, as follows: Value Semantics Reference ----------- ---------------------- ---------------- 0-19 unallocated 20 False [ RFC-to-be ] 21 True [ RFC-to-be ] 22 Null [ RFC-to-be ] 23 Undefined value [ RFC-to-be ] 24-31 Reserved 32-255 unallocated QUESTIONS: 1) the text "starting with the number 16" included in section 7.1 is very confusing: " New entries in the range 0 to 19 will be allocated by Standards Action, starting with the number 16. New entries in the range 32 to 255 will be allocated by Specification Required." Can authors please clarify the "starting number 16" within the range 0 to 19? 2) Should the term "Unassigned" be used as defined in RFC5226, rather then "unallocated"? Second, a new registry will be created called the "CBOR Tags" registry. The registration rules for the new registry are as follows: 0-23 - Standards Action 24-255 - Specification Required 256-18446744073709551615 - First Come First Served There are initial registrations in this new registry and all (except for unallocated) will have a reference of [ RFC-to-be ]. +-----------+-------------------+-----------------------------------+ | tag | data item | semantics | +-----------+-------------------+-----------------------------------+ | 0 | UTF-8 string | Standard date/time string; see | | | | Section 2.4.1 | | | | | | 1 | multiple | Epoch-based date/time; see | | | | Section 2.4.1 | | | | | | 2 | byte string | Positive bignum; see Section | | | | 2.4.2 | | | | | | 3 | byte string | Negative bignum; see Section | | | | 2.4.2 | | | | | | 4 | array | Decimal fraction; see Section | | | | 2.4.3 | | | | | | 5 | array | Bigfloat; see Section 2.4.3 | | | | | | 6..20 | (unallocated) | (unallocated) | | | | | | 21 | multiple | Expected conversion to base64url | | | | encoding; see Section 2.4.4.2 | | | | | | 22 | multiple | Expected conversion to base64 | | | | encoding; see Section 2.4.4.2 | | | | | | 23 | multiple | Expected conversion to base16 | | | | encoding; see Section 2.4.4.2 | | | | | | 24 | byte string | Encoded CBOR data item; see | | | | Section 2.4.4.1 | | | | | | 25..31 | (unallocated) | (unallocated) | | | | | | 32 | UTF-8 string | URI; see Section 2.4.4.3 | | | | | | 33 | UTF-8 string | Base64url; see Section 2.4.4.3 | | | | | | 34 | UTF-8 string | Base64; see Section 2.4.4.3 | | | | | | 35 | UTF-8 string | Regular expression; see Section | | | | 2.4.4.3 | | | | | | 36 | UTF-8 string | MIME message; see Section 2.4.4.3 | | | | | | 37+ | (unallocated) | (unallocated) | +-----------+-------------------+-----------------------------------+ QUESTION: Should the term "Unassigned" be used as defined in RFC5226, rather then "unallocated"? Third, this document requests adding a media type to the applications mediat type registry located at: http://www.iana.org/assignments/media-types/application/index.html The media type to be added is: cbor IANA understands that these three actions are the only ones required to be completed upon approval of this document. --- Note: The actions requested in this document will not be completed until the document has been approved for publication as an RFC. This message is only to confirm what actions will be performed. |
2013-07-19
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04 | Barry Leiba | Placed on agenda for telechat - 2013-08-15 |
2013-07-18
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04 | Jean Mahoney | Request for Last Call review by GENART is assigned to Martin Thomson |
2013-07-18
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04 | Jean Mahoney | Request for Last Call review by GENART is assigned to Martin Thomson |
2013-07-18
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04 | Tero Kivinen | Request for Last Call review by SECDIR is assigned to Matt Lepinski |
2013-07-18
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04 | Tero Kivinen | Request for Last Call review by SECDIR is assigned to Matt Lepinski |
2013-07-16
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04 | Amy Vezza | IANA Review state changed to IANA - Review Needed |
2013-07-16
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04 | Amy Vezza | The following Last Call announcement was sent out: From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org Sender: Subject: Last Call: (Concise Binary Object Representation (CBOR)) to … The following Last Call announcement was sent out: From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org Sender: Subject: Last Call: (Concise Binary Object Representation (CBOR)) to Proposed Standard The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to consider the following document: - 'Concise Binary Object Representation (CBOR)' as Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2013-08-13. Exceptionally, comments may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting. Abstract The Concise Binary Object Representation (CBOR) is a data format whose design goals include the possibility of extremely small code size, fairly small message size, and extensibility without the need for version negotiation. These design goals make it different from earlier binary serializations such as ASN.1 and MessagePack. The file can be obtained via http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-bormann-cbor/ IESG discussion can be tracked via http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-bormann-cbor/ballot/ No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D. |
2013-07-16
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04 | Amy Vezza | State changed to In Last Call from Last Call Requested |
2013-07-16
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04 | Barry Leiba | Last call was requested |
2013-07-16
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04 | Barry Leiba | Last call announcement was generated |
2013-07-16
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04 | Barry Leiba | Ballot approval text was generated |
2013-07-16
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04 | Barry Leiba | Ballot writeup was generated |
2013-07-16
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04 | Barry Leiba | I will finish my AD review during last call -- I think the document is in good shape, and my comments are not likely to … I will finish my AD review during last call -- I think the document is in good shape, and my comments are not likely to be major. |
2013-07-16
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04 | Barry Leiba | State changed to Last Call Requested from AD Evaluation |
2013-07-15
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04 | Barry Leiba | State changed to AD Evaluation from Publication Requested |
2013-07-15
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04 | Barry Leiba | Assigned to Applications Area |
2013-07-15
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04 | Barry Leiba | State Change Notice email list changed to draft-bormann-cbor@tools.ietf.org, johnl@iecc.com |
2013-07-15
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04 | Barry Leiba | IESG process started in state Publication Requested |
2013-07-15
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04 | Barry Leiba | Changed consensus to Yes from Unknown |
2013-07-15
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04 | Barry Leiba | Intended Status changed to Proposed Standard from None |
2013-07-15
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04 | Barry Leiba | Stream changed to IETF from None |
2013-07-15
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04 | Barry Leiba | Changed document writeup |
2013-07-15
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04 | Barry Leiba | Document shepherd changed to John Levine |
2013-07-14
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04 | Paul Hoffman | New version available: draft-bormann-cbor-04.txt |
2013-07-09
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03 | Paul Hoffman | New version available: draft-bormann-cbor-03.txt |
2013-06-16
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02 | Paul Hoffman | New version available: draft-bormann-cbor-02.txt |
2013-05-29
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01 | Carsten Bormann | New version available: draft-bormann-cbor-01.txt |
2013-05-21
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00 | Carsten Bormann | New version available: draft-bormann-cbor-00.txt |