Agenda interim-2023-cellar-03: Tue 19:00
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Meeting Agenda | Codec Encoding for LossLess Archiving and Realtime transmission (cellar) WG | |
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Date and time | 2023-04-04 19:00 | |
Title | Agenda interim-2023-cellar-03: Tue 19:00 | |
State | Active | |
Other versions | markdown | |
Last updated | 2023-04-02 |
CELLAR -- DRAFT AGENDA for Virtual Interim Meeting
Date | Time | Local Times |
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2023-04-04 21:00 Amsterdam | Time Converter | |
Note | Meeting time is anchored to Amsterdam |
Administrivia
INFO:
https://notes.ietf.org/notes-ietf-interim-2023-cellar-03-cellar
https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/chair-notes/tree/master/interim-2023-03
**Note that we're now pointing to the Github repo for chair notes here**
MEETING INFO and WEB CONFERENCE:
info: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2023-cellar-03/session/cellar
https://meetings.conf.meetecho.com/interim/?short=c47aaec5-cac1-4f36-b0de-0fda91c8d4e6
note that chat is now Zulip:
https://zulip.ietf.org/login/#narrow/stream/cellar
but is accessible via meetecho interface.
Shared HedgeDoc for notetaking
Now using the Datatracker assigned notepad at:
https://notes.ietf.org/notes-ietf-interim-2023-cellar-03-cellar
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2023 virtual interim meeting dates
- Please note our 2023 dates listed at https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/cellar/meetings/
Agenda Items
Note Well:
https://www.ietf.org/about/note-well/
Please be KIND to each other.
Roll call
Attendees
*
Accept draft minutes from 2023-01-24
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WG status update
Draft | State | Date Posted | Plans |
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draft-ietf-cellar-chapter-codecs-01 | ID Exists | 2022-12-04 | |
draft-ietf-cellar-codec-09 | ID Exists | 2022-12-04 | |
draft-ietf-cellar-control-01 | ID Exists | 2022-12-04 | |
draft-ietf-cellar-ffv1-v4-19 | ID Exists | 2022-12-04 | |
draft-ietf-cellar-flac-07 | Shepherd write-up done | 2022-10-23 | Shepherd notes sent to mailing list for February meeting |
draft-ietf-cellar-matroska-15 | fixes from AD review | 2023-02-11 | Last Call ends 2023-02-28 |
draft-ietf-cellar-tags-09 | ID Exists | 2022-12-04 |
Milestone review:
- was: IESG Balloting is next step for Matroska
- was: AD Evaluation is next step for FLAC
Matroska issues - Discussion of Last Call comments on the call.
- Any issues from WGLC, IETF Last Call and random Internet reviews?
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FLAC issues - Discussion on the call
- document revision?
FFV1 v4 issues - Discussion on the call
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AOB?
- (from Spencer) Is it useful to discuss how much we want to rely on the RFC Errata process for specifications with source text in GitHub at a future meeting?
- (from Spencer) Is it useful to go over the post-WGLC publication process at a future meeting?
- Next meeting is 2023-04-04 (and then 2023-04-25)
Previous Minutes - CELLAR -- DRAFT MINUTES from Virtual Interim Meeting
Date | Time | Local Times |
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2023-02-28 21:00 Amsterdam | Time Converter | |
Note | Meeting time is anchored to Amsterdam |
Administrivia
INFO:
https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/chair-notes/tree/master/interim-2023-02
Note that we're now pointing to the Github repo for chair notes here
MEETING INFO and WEB CONFERENCE:
info: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2023-cellar-02/session/cellar
https://meetings.conf.meetecho.com/interim/?short=8a8f2003-11c7-4564-88fe-46b1c0c93049
note that chat is now Zulip:
https://zulip.ietf.org/login/#narrow/stream/cellar
but is accessible via meetecho interface.
Shared HedgeDoc for notetaking
Now using the Datatracker assigned notepad at:
https://notes.ietf.org/notes-ietf-interim-2023-cellar-02-cellar
-
Note that if you log in to the IETF datatracker, you'll be able to edit/clarify/correct these notes, add your name to attendee lists, etc.
-
Please ask Michael or Spencer if you have questions.
2023 virtual interim meeting dates
- Please note our 2023 dates listed at https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/cellar/meetings/
Agenda Items
Note Well:
https://www.ietf.org/about/note-well/
Please be KIND to each other.
Roll call
Attendees
* Spencer Dawkins
* Martijn van Beurden
* Jérôme Martinez
* Michael Niedermayer
* Steve Lhomme
* Martin Below
* Michael Richardson
* Dave Rice
Regrets
* Michael Richardson must leave at 21:45.
Accept draft minutes from 2023-01-24
- no comments, accepted as is.
WG status update
Draft | State | Date Posted | Plans |
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draft-ietf-cellar-chapter-codecs-01 | ID Exists | 2022-12-04 | |
draft-ietf-cellar-codec-09 | ID Exists | 2022-12-04 | |
draft-ietf-cellar-control-01 | ID Exists | 2022-12-04 | |
draft-ietf-cellar-ffv1-v4-19 | ID Exists | 2022-12-04 | |
draft-ietf-cellar-flac-07 | Waiting for Shepherd write-up | 2022-10-23 | Shepherd notes sent to mailing list for February meeting |
draft-ietf-cellar-matroska-15 | In Last Call (ends 2023-02-28) | 2023-02-11 | Last Call ends 2023-02-28 |
draft-ietf-cellar-tags-09 | ID Exists | 2022-12-04 |
Milestone review:
- IESG Balloting is next step for Matroska
- AD Evaluation is next step for FLAC
Matroska issues - Discussion of Last Call comments on the call.
- Need to discuss EBML Lacing details are incorrect #726 issue on the call
- Clarification of how the negative VINTs are occuring from #726, clarification belongs in the Matroska specification on how to represent these negative VINTs.
- explains when/where the document goes next... to IESG for balloting.
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FLAC issues - Discussion on the call
- Spencer finally finished the Shepherd Review in two parts, starting here
- comments to the list
FFV1 v4 issues - Discussion on the call
- (From Spencer) Any Feedback from FOSDEM FFV1 presentation?
- nothing specific
- some questions about interactions with JPEG-XL - JPEG-XL started with FFV1
- what is the performance of the different formats, needs some sample files (for different patent-less formats)
- small wish list is in issue tracker: https://github.com/FFmpeg/FFV1/issues
- we will go through the issues and prioritize them.
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AOB?
- (from Spencer) Is it useful to discuss how much we want to rely on the RFC Errata process for specifications with source text in GitHub at a future meeting?
- (from Spencer) Is it useful to go over the post-WGLC publication process at a future meeting?
- Next meeting is 2023-04-04 (and then 2023-04-25)