Moving RFC 4405, RFC 4406, RFC 4407 (Sender-ID) to Historic
status-change-change-sender-id-to-historic-00

The following approval message was sent
From: The IESG
To: IETF-Announce 
Cc: The IESG ,
    draft-lyon-senderid-pra@ietf.org,
    draft-lyon-senderid-core@ietf.org,
    draft-katz-submitter@ietf.org,
    superuser@gmail.com,
    rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org,
    iana@iana.org
Subject: Document Action: Purported Responsible Address in E-Mail Messages to Historic

The IESG has approved changing the status of the following document:
- Purported Responsible Address in E-Mail Messages
  (rfc4407) to Historic

This document action is documented at:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/status-change-change-sender-id-to-historic/

A URL of the affected document is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc4407/

Status Change Details:

In 2006, two experiments were started for email authentication: Sender
Policy Framework (SPF, RFC 4408) and Sender ID (RFC 4406, supported by
RFCs 4405 and 4407).  After eight years of experimental data (RFC
6686), it was clear that SPF remained in widespread use while Sender
ID did not.  RFC 7208 moved SPF from Experimental status to Proposed
Standard.  This document acknowledges that Sender ID did not pass its
experiment, and changes the status of RFCs 4405, 4406, and 4407 to
Historic.

Personnel

  Alexey Melnikov is the responsible Area Director.

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    superuser@gmail.com,
    rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org,
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Subject: Document Action: Sender ID: Authenticating E-Mail to Historic

The IESG has approved changing the status of the following document:
- Sender ID: Authenticating E-Mail
  (rfc4406) to Historic

This document action is documented at:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/status-change-change-sender-id-to-historic/

A URL of the affected document is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc4406/

Status Change Details:

In 2006, two experiments were started for email authentication: Sender
Policy Framework (SPF, RFC 4408) and Sender ID (RFC 4406, supported by
RFCs 4405 and 4407).  After eight years of experimental data (RFC
6686), it was clear that SPF remained in widespread use while Sender
ID did not.  RFC 7208 moved SPF from Experimental status to Proposed
Standard.  This document acknowledges that Sender ID did not pass its
experiment, and changes the status of RFCs 4405, 4406, and 4407 to
Historic.

Personnel

  Alexey Melnikov is the responsible Area Director.

The following approval message was sent
From: The IESG
To: IETF-Announce 
Cc: The IESG ,
    draft-lyon-senderid-pra@ietf.org,
    draft-lyon-senderid-core@ietf.org,
    draft-katz-submitter@ietf.org,
    superuser@gmail.com,
    rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org,
    iana@iana.org
Subject: Document Action: SMTP Service Extension for Indicating the Responsible Submitter of an E-Mail Message to Historic

The IESG has approved changing the status of the following document:
- SMTP Service Extension for Indicating the Responsible Submitter of an
E-Mail Message
  (rfc4405) to Historic

This document action is documented at:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/status-change-change-sender-id-to-historic/

A URL of the affected document is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc4405/

Status Change Details:

In 2006, two experiments were started for email authentication: Sender
Policy Framework (SPF, RFC 4408) and Sender ID (RFC 4406, supported by
RFCs 4405 and 4407).  After eight years of experimental data (RFC
6686), it was clear that SPF remained in widespread use while Sender
ID did not.  RFC 7208 moved SPF from Experimental status to Proposed
Standard.  This document acknowledges that Sender ID did not pass its
experiment, and changes the status of RFCs 4405, 4406, and 4407 to
Historic.

Personnel

  Alexey Melnikov is the responsible Area Director.

[Ballot comment]
As per ietf@ietf.org discussion, we should get closure on whether SUBMITTER SMTP extension needs to be moved to Historic. I am going to defer the document for 2 weeks to get closure on this.

As per ietf@ietf.org discussion, this should also add a note to "SMTP Service Extensions" registry on  saying that SUBMITTER was moved to historic. It should retain the current reference + have the reference to this document change status.

[Ballot comment]
One suggestion: I thought

"This document acknowledges that Sender ID did not pass its experiment,"

was pretty vague. Perhaps something like

"This document acknowledges that Sender ID did not demonstrate acceptance, so that further experiments are not justified, and,"

[Ballot comment]
As per ietf@ietf.org discussion, this should also add a note to "SMTP Service Extensions" registry on  saying that SUBMITTER was moved to historic. It should retain the current reference + have the reference to this document change status.

The following Last Call announcement was sent out (ends 2018-06-06):

From: The IESG
To: IETF-Announce
Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org
Sender:
Subject: Last Call: Moving RFC 4405, RFC 4406, RFC 4407 (Sender-ID) to Historic


The IESG has received a request from DMARC WG to make the
following status changes:

- RFC4405 from Experimental to Historic
    (SMTP Service Extension for Indicating the Responsible Submitter of an
    E-Mail Message)

- RFC4406 from Experimental to Historic
    (Sender ID: Authenticating E-Mail)

- RFC4407 from Experimental to Historic
    (Purported Responsible Address in E-Mail Messages)

The supporting document for this request can be found here:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/status-change-change-sender-id-to-historic/

The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final
comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the
ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2018-06-06. Exceptionally, comments may be
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The affected documents can be obtained via
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc4405/
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc4406/
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc4407/

IESG discussion of this request can be tracked via
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/status-change-change-sender-id-to-historic/ballot/