Early Review of draft-kivinen-802-15-ie-02

Request Review of draft-kivinen-802-15-ie
Requested rev. no specific revision (document currently at 06)
Type Early Review
Team Internet Area Directorate (intdir)
Deadline 2016-10-20
Requested 2016-10-11
Draft last updated 2016-10-24
Completed reviews Intdir Early review of -02 by Charles Perkins (diff)
Intdir Early review of -02 by Pascal Thubert (diff)
Opsdir Telechat review of -04 by Scott Bradner (diff)
Genart Telechat review of -04 by Francis Dupont (diff)
Secdir Telechat review of -04 by Magnus Nystrom (diff)
Genart Last Call review of -04 by Francis Dupont (diff)
Genart Last Call review of -04 by Francis Dupont (diff)
Opsdir Early review of -06 by Scott Bradner
Assignment Reviewer Pascal Thubert
State Completed
Review review-kivinen-802-15-ie-02-intdir-early-thubert-2016-10-24
Reviewed rev. 02 (document currently at 06)
Review completed: 2016-10-24


Dear all :


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Document: draft-kivinen-802-15-ie

IEEE 802.15.4 Information Element for IETF

Reviewer: Pascal Thubert

Review Date: October 13, 2016 

IETF Last Call Date: TBD




Tero’s draft was developed outside of the working group but is an enabler for solutions developed at 6lo and 6TiSCH. This review comes after the ones by Pat and then Charlie, who provided the adequate comments regarding IEEE802.15.4 and
 ANA. This review abstains to comment on that. Also, this review is made in the light of the Charlie’s proposed update.


Major issues: 


I am not sure that “expert review” is the right policy for section 8 on IANA considerations. This registry is for IETF use only. Suggestion is to use “RFC required”:


   Future assignments in this registry are to be coordinated via IANA under the policy of "RFC Required" (see RFC 5226).



Intended Status for this document: Seems to me that  informational should be the right level; see for instance


Related: In the -04 that Charlie attached, I saw that uppercase imperatives were added. I do not think that’s a good idea:



Imperative “MUST” in section 7 refers to the writing of other documents and is probably not appropriate.



Imperative “SHOULD” in section 7 does not refer to the behavior of the implementation of this document and is probably not appropriate either.



If those go away, ref to RFC 2119 is not needed and the specification can take the informational path, much easier



Minor issues: 


 The need for section 5 does not appear until the IANA section. The way it is done works, but leaves the reader puzzled. Swapping 5 and 6 and then one last sentence saying that there is no need to block subtype IDs in the IETF IE for Vendor
 Specific work would have made the reading a bit smoother.


Do we need 20% of the subtypes for experimentations? 240 to 255 seems enough to me…



Many thanks, Tero, for this much needed work!