Early Review of draft-ietf-i2rs-yang-l3-topology-10

Request Review of draft-ietf-i2rs-yang-l3-topology
Requested rev. no specific revision (document currently at 16)
Type Early Review
Team Routing Area Directorate (rtgdir)
Deadline 2017-07-26
Requested 2017-07-12
Requested by Susan Hares
Authors Alexander Clemm, Jan Medved, Robert Varga, Xufeng Liu, Hariharan Ananthakrishnan, Nitin Bahadur
Draft last updated 2017-07-19
Completed reviews Rtgdir Early review of -01 by Tony Przygienda (diff)
Opsdir Telechat review of -08 by Ron Bonica (diff)
Secdir Telechat review of -08 by Hilarie Orman (diff)
Genart Last Call review of -08 by Paul Kyzivat (diff)
Yangdoctors Early review of -02 by Carl Moberg (diff)
Rtgdir Early review of -10 by Christian Hopps (diff)
Yangdoctors Early review of -10 by Ladislav Lhotka (diff)
Rtgdir Early review of -10 by Michael Richardson (diff)
Secdir Last Call review of -13 by Hilarie Orman (diff)
Genart Last Call review of -13 by Paul Kyzivat (diff)
Please re-check the latest version of  document.  It has passed WG LC for the 2nd time.
Assignment Reviewer Michael Richardson
State Completed
Review review-ietf-i2rs-yang-l3-topology-10-rtgdir-early-richardson-2017-07-19
Reviewed rev. 10 (document currently at 16)
Review result Has Issues
Review completed: 2017-07-19



I have been selected to do a routing directorate “early” review of this draft. 

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Document: draft-ietf-i2rs-yang-l3-topology
Reviewer: Michael Richardson
Review Date: 2017-07-18
Intended Status: Standards Track


I have some minor concerns about this document that I think should be
resolved before it is submitted to the IESG.


I found the document clear and well written.
You told me at the beginning that:
   For this purpose,
   example models are introduced that cover IS-IS [RFC1195] and OSPF

Yet I still felt sad when I got to spot where it said:
   Accordingly, the module is not delimited with

I think that the point of the OSPF and ISIS examples was to show, via a kind
of running-code of YANG, that the specification was complete enough that
it could be used.   Maybe this could be clarified better, the examples occupy
a large portion of the document.   I'm not sure so much of the document
should be devoted to non-normative examples.

I don't think I agree with ommitting the CODE BEGINS, because someone reading
this might well want to run the examples through their yang validator.
It was nice to have the mini-tutorial on YANG, but I don't think it needed
to be repeated.

I found parts of the YANG to be silly, such as:

        leaf-list flag {
           type node-flag-type;
             "Node flags";

Does YANG require that actually have to have a description?
It is meaningless as above.  What are node flags?   I suggest that the
description should be far more useful.  Consider someone seeing the data
decoded into a database, but has this description.

Another example of useless descriptions:
        case asbr {
           leaf asbr {
             type empty;
               "The node is ASBR";

okay, fair enough, it is an example, so don't work too hard here.

As examples, I thought that maybe I'd see this module instantiated into
JSON or XML and to see an example of a data set that describes a real-life
router's interfaces.  I did not see such a thing.
Perhaps there are feelings about whether or not a YANG model should include
concrete code or not, I'm not sure.

I didn't understand why:
  Appendix A.  Companion YANG model for non-NMDA compliant implementations
was included.  Probably I don't know enough about NMDA.


I found no trivial nits.

Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca>, Sandelman Software Works
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