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Report from the IETF Workshop on Peer-to-Peer (P2P) Infrastructure, May 28, 2008
draft-p2pi-cooper-workshop-report-01

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2009-06-01
01 Cindy Morgan State Changes to RFC Ed Queue from Approved-announcement sent by Cindy Morgan
2009-06-01
01 (System) IANA Action state changed to No IC from In Progress
2009-06-01
01 (System) IANA Action state changed to In Progress
2009-06-01
01 Cindy Morgan IESG state changed to Approved-announcement sent
2009-06-01
01 Cindy Morgan IESG has approved the document
2009-06-01
01 Cindy Morgan Closed "Approve" ballot
2009-05-08
01 (System) Removed from agenda for telechat - 2009-05-07
2009-05-07
01 Cindy Morgan State Changes to Approved-announcement to be sent::Point Raised - writeup needed from IESG Evaluation by Cindy Morgan
2009-05-07
01 Ralph Droms [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded by Ralph Droms
2009-05-07
01 Dan Romascanu [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded by Dan Romascanu
2009-05-07
01 Jari Arkko
[Ballot comment]
Good that we get the report out. This seminar was one of the most
useful additional events organized by IETF, it clearly had …
[Ballot comment]
Good that we get the report out. This seminar was one of the most
useful additional events organized by IETF, it clearly had an impact.

A couple of comments on the draft, however:

I felt that it would have been useful to make a bolder statement
in Section 2 about this problem being restricted to P2P. The
general issue is: if end users are migrating (for whatever reason
and for whatever application) to more "always on" type of traffic,
this has a fundamental impact on whether statistical multiplexing
is a viable form of building networks in the future. At the end of
the day, you have to give customers what they want (for a reasonable
price to you and them), not try to block them from doing, say,
24x7 surveillance apps, P2P, or IPTV.

IMHO, Section 4 does not give full justice to what Stanislav was speaking
about. It paints the issue in terms of damaging neighbours, when Stanislav
was saying that its even in the best interest of the P2P applications
to behave nicely, because they may hurt even the person running them,
if you are behind the congested DSL modem/router in your home and both
the P2P and web apps suffer from the latency.

The appendix on agenda should probably list the speaker's names, too.

Given the nature of unstable URLs, I think it would be useful to list the titles of the position papers in the RFC itself.
2009-05-07
01 Jari Arkko [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded by Jari Arkko
2009-05-06
01 Alexey Melnikov [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded by Alexey Melnikov
2009-05-06
01 Alexey Melnikov
[Ballot comment]
The header says "Intended status: Standards Track". I don't believe this is correct.

5.1.3.  Multi-Layer Tracker-Based Architecture

[...]

  Inasmuch as the multi-layer …
[Ballot comment]
The header says "Intended status: Standards Track". I don't believe this is correct.

5.1.3.  Multi-Layer Tracker-Based Architecture

[...]

  Inasmuch as the multi-layer scheme might require ISPs to aid peers in

s/Inasmuch/In as much

  finding the optimal paths to unauthorized copies of copyrighted
  content, ISPs may be concerned about the legal liability of
  participating.
2009-05-06
01 Alexey Melnikov [Ballot comment]
The header says "Intended status: Standards Track". I don't believe this is correct.
2009-05-06
01 Alexey Melnikov [Ballot comment]
The header says "Intended status: Standards Track". I don't believe this is correct.
2009-05-06
01 Lisa Dusseault [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded by Lisa Dusseault
2009-05-06
01 Pasi Eronen [Ballot comment]
Typo in appendix B: s/Eric Pescorla/Eric Rescorla/
2009-05-06
01 Pasi Eronen [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded by Pasi Eronen
2009-05-06
01 Russ Housley [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded by Russ Housley
2009-05-05
01 Robert Sparks
[Ballot comment]
Appendix D references a page on the tools wiki. Once this draft is published we should consider marking that page somehow to remind …
[Ballot comment]
Appendix D references a page on the tools wiki. Once this draft is published we should consider marking that page somehow to remind future maintainers that an RFC points to it (so they would know to perhaps submit an errata if the page had to be moved away for instance).
2009-05-05
01 Robert Sparks [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded by Robert Sparks
2009-05-04
01 Lars Eggert [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded by Lars Eggert
2009-04-29
01 Adrian Farrel [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded by Adrian Farrel
2009-04-27
01 Cullen Jennings State Changes to IESG Evaluation from Waiting for AD Go-Ahead by Cullen Jennings
2009-04-27
01 Cullen Jennings Placed on agenda for telechat - 2009-05-07 by Cullen Jennings
2009-04-27
01 Cullen Jennings [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Cullen Jennings
2009-04-27
01 Cullen Jennings Ballot has been issued by Cullen Jennings
2009-04-27
01 Cullen Jennings Created "Approve" ballot
2009-03-25
01 Amanda Baber IANA comments:

We understand that this document does not request any IANA actions.
2009-03-23
01 (System) State has been changed to Waiting for AD Go-Ahead from In Last Call by system
2009-02-26
01 Samuel Weiler Request for Last Call review by SECDIR is assigned to Rob Austein
2009-02-26
01 Samuel Weiler Request for Last Call review by SECDIR is assigned to Rob Austein
2009-02-23
01 Cindy Morgan Last call sent
2009-02-23
01 Cindy Morgan State Changes to In Last Call from Last Call Requested by Cindy Morgan
2009-02-23
01 Cullen Jennings State Changes to Last Call Requested from AD Evaluation::AD Followup by Cullen Jennings
2009-02-23
01 Cullen Jennings Last Call was requested by Cullen Jennings
2009-02-23
01 (System) Ballot writeup text was added
2009-02-23
01 (System) Last call text was added
2009-02-23
01 (System) Ballot approval text was added
2009-02-23
01 (System) Sub state has been changed to AD Follow up from New Id Needed
2009-02-23
01 (System) New version available: draft-p2pi-cooper-workshop-report-01.txt
2009-01-25
01 Cullen Jennings State Changes to AD Evaluation::Revised ID Needed from AD Evaluation by Cullen Jennings
2008-12-10
01 Cullen Jennings State Changes to AD Evaluation from Publication Requested by Cullen Jennings
2008-12-05
01 Cullen Jennings Draft Added by Cullen Jennings in state Publication Requested
2008-10-24
00 (System) New version available: draft-p2pi-cooper-workshop-report-00.txt