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A Data Model for Presence
draft-ietf-simple-presence-data-model-07

Yes

(Jon Peterson)
(Ted Hardie)

No Objection

(Alex Zinin)
(Bert Wijnen)
(Bill Fenner)
(David Kessens)
(Margaret Cullen)
(Mark Townsley)
(Russ Housley)
(Scott Hollenbeck)

Abstain


Note: This ballot was opened for revision 07 and is now closed.

Allison Mankin Former IESG member
Yes
Yes (2005-12-01) Unknown
Hooray, you got to the finish line.  Good work!
Jon Peterson Former IESG member
Yes
Yes () Unknown

                            
Ted Hardie Former IESG member
Yes
Yes () Unknown

                            
Alex Zinin Former IESG member
No Objection
No Objection () Unknown

                            
Bert Wijnen Former IESG member
No Objection
No Objection () Unknown

                            
Bill Fenner Former IESG member
No Objection
No Objection () Unknown

                            
Brian Carpenter Former IESG member
No Objection
No Objection (2005-12-14) Unknown
Could note that it updates 3863 in the Abstract.

Gen-ART review by Elwyn Davies at
http://www.alvestrand.no/ietf/gen/reviews/draft-ietf-simple-presence-data-model-06-davies.txt
David Kessens Former IESG member
No Objection
No Objection () Unknown

                            
Margaret Cullen Former IESG member
No Objection
No Objection () Unknown

                            
Mark Townsley Former IESG member
No Objection
No Objection () Unknown

                            
Russ Housley Former IESG member
(was Discuss) No Objection
No Objection () Unknown

                            
Scott Hollenbeck Former IESG member
(was Discuss) No Objection
No Objection () Unknown

                            
Sam Hartman Former IESG member
Abstain
Abstain (2005-12-14) Unknown
I believe publication of this document may be harmful to the Internet.
In particular I believe that this document modifies data structures
used outside the context of Simple in ways that are specific to
Simple.  The presence documents that this data model modifies are part
of CPIM and thus are used for interoperability between multiple
instant messaging systems.  While I this document takes steps to avoid
interoperability problems, There are several potentially harmful
interactions with CPIM.

1) This document doesn't give advice on how to generate presence
documents useful both to watchers who understand this data model and
to watchers who do not understand this model.


2) This document doesn't give advice sufficient to implement watchers
that can make reasonable use both of CPIM style presence documents and
that can make use of the data model documents.

3) I'm concerned that the interactions when multiple IM/communications
systems start using this model have not been fully considered.


I was not able to determine that these issues had been considered
adequately so I am abstaining.