Spanning Tree Protocol (STP) Application of the Inter-Chassis Communication Protocol (ICCP)
draft-ietf-pwe3-iccp-stp-05
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2016-01-21
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2016-01-13
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2016-01-13
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2015-11-03
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05 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to RFC-Ed-Ack from Waiting on RFC Editor |
2015-11-02
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05 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to Waiting on RFC Editor from Waiting on Authors |
2015-11-02
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05 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to Waiting on Authors from In Progress |
2015-10-30
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05 | (System) | RFC Editor state changed to EDIT |
2015-10-30
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05 | (System) | IESG state changed to RFC Ed Queue from Approved-announcement sent |
2015-10-30
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05 | (System) | Announcement was received by RFC Editor |
2015-10-29
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05 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to In Progress |
2015-10-29
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05 | Cindy Morgan | IESG state changed to Approved-announcement sent from Approved-announcement to be sent::Point Raised - writeup needed |
2015-10-29
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05 | Cindy Morgan | IESG has approved the document |
2015-10-29
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05 | Cindy Morgan | Closed "Approve" ballot |
2015-10-29
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05 | Cindy Morgan | Ballot approval text was generated |
2015-10-29
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05 | Cindy Morgan | Ballot writeup was changed |
2015-10-14
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05 | (System) | Notify list changed from agmalis@gmail.com, pals-chairs@ietf.org to (None) |
2015-10-09
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04 | Gunter Van de Velde | Closed request for Last Call review by OPSDIR with state 'No Response' |
2015-10-09
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04 | Mingui Zhang | IANA Review state changed to Version Changed - Review Needed from IANA OK - Actions Needed |
2015-10-09
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05 | Mingui Zhang | New version available: draft-ietf-pwe3-iccp-stp-05.txt |
2015-10-01
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04 | Amy Vezza | IESG state changed to Approved-announcement to be sent::Point Raised - writeup needed from IESG Evaluation |
2015-10-01
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04 | Barry Leiba | [Ballot comment] This is a small thing, but please give some consideration to this: A 2119 "SHOULD" defines something that implementations need to do unless … [Ballot comment] This is a small thing, but please give some consideration to this: A 2119 "SHOULD" defines something that implementations need to do unless they have a good reason not to, and fully understand the issues and the consequences of not doing it. In general, I believe that means that specifications, when they use "SHOULD", need to include enough information for readers to understand why it's a "SHOULD" and to evaluate the consequences. That seems missing from many of the SHOULDs here, and I'd like to see you go through the document, find the ones that aren't making it clear enough, and beef them up just a little. An example where this is done right is in Section 4.2.3: While a PE has sent out a synchronization request for a particular PE node, it SHOULD silently ignore all TLVs from that node, that are received prior to the synchronization response and which carry the same type of information being requested. This saves the system from the burden of updating state that will ultimately be overwritten by the synchronization response. Note that TLVs pertaining to other systems should continue to be processed normally. THe second sentence explains why, and gives me some idea of what to consider when I'm writing my implementation. Thank you. There are others that get it right as well. A particularly weak one is in Section 4.2.1: A PE SHOULD follow the following order when advertising its STP state upon initial application connection setup: What's the significance of that order, from an interoperability, performance, or security perspective? What happens if, because of how my implementation is written, it's easier for me to do them in a different order and I decide to do so, not knowing what the consequences are? |
2015-10-01
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04 | Barry Leiba | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Barry Leiba |
2015-10-01
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04 | Jari Arkko | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Jari Arkko |
2015-09-30
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04 | Joel Jaeggli | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Joel Jaeggli |
2015-09-30
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04 | Terry Manderson | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Terry Manderson |
2015-09-30
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04 | Martin Stiemerling | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Martin Stiemerling |
2015-09-30
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04 | Stephen Farrell | [Ballot comment] - 3.3.5: is that a hard-coded sha1 or md5? if so, why is that ok? what if 802.1q is fixed/improved e.g. to use … [Ballot comment] - 3.3.5: is that a hard-coded sha1 or md5? if so, why is that ok? what if 802.1q is fixed/improved e.g. to use sha256? |
2015-09-30
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04 | Stephen Farrell | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Stephen Farrell |
2015-09-30
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04 | Benoît Claise | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Benoit Claise |
2015-09-29
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04 | Ben Campbell | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Ben Campbell |
2015-09-29
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04 | Alvaro Retana | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Alvaro Retana |
2015-09-29
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04 | Kathleen Moriarty | [Ballot comment] Please see the nits found in the SecDir review: https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/secdir/current/msg06068.html |
2015-09-29
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04 | Kathleen Moriarty | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Kathleen Moriarty |
2015-09-29
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04 | Brian Haberman | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Brian Haberman |
2015-09-28
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04 | Spencer Dawkins | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Spencer Dawkins |
2015-09-28
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04 | Alissa Cooper | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Alissa Cooper |
2015-09-25
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04 | Alia Atlas | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Alia Atlas |
2015-09-25
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04 | Brian Carpenter | Request for Telechat review by GENART Completed: Ready with Issues. Reviewer: Brian Carpenter. |
2015-09-24
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04 | Jean Mahoney | Request for Telechat review by GENART is assigned to Brian Carpenter |
2015-09-24
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04 | Jean Mahoney | Request for Telechat review by GENART is assigned to Brian Carpenter |
2015-09-24
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04 | Tero Kivinen | Request for Last Call review by SECDIR Completed: Has Nits. Reviewer: Shawn Emery. |
2015-09-23
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04 | Deborah Brungard | IESG state changed to IESG Evaluation from Waiting for AD Go-Ahead |
2015-09-23
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04 | Deborah Brungard | Placed on agenda for telechat - 2015-10-01 |
2015-09-23
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04 | Deborah Brungard | Changed consensus to Yes from Unknown |
2015-09-23
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04 | Deborah Brungard | Ballot has been issued |
2015-09-23
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04 | Deborah Brungard | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Deborah Brungard |
2015-09-23
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04 | Deborah Brungard | Created "Approve" ballot |
2015-09-23
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04 | (System) | IESG state changed to Waiting for AD Go-Ahead from In Last Call |
2015-09-22
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04 | (System) | IANA Review state changed to IANA OK - Actions Needed from IANA - Review Needed |
2015-09-22
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04 | Amanda Baber | (Via drafts-lastcall@iana.org): IESG/Authors/WG Chairs: IANA has completed its review of draft-ietf-pwe3-iccp-stp-04. If any part of this review is inaccurate, please let us know. IANA … (Via drafts-lastcall@iana.org): IESG/Authors/WG Chairs: IANA has completed its review of draft-ietf-pwe3-iccp-stp-04. If any part of this review is inaccurate, please let us know. IANA understands that, upon approval of this document, there is a single action which IANA must complete. In the ICC RG Parameter Types subregistry of the Pseudowire Name Spaces registry located at: https://www.iana.org/assignments/pwe3-parameters/ the following 13 registration will be made for codepoints in a sequential block starting from the next available value in the range marked for assignment by IETF review (0x2000-0x2FFF): Parameter Type Description Reference ------------------------ --------------------------------- -------------- [ TBD-at-Registration ] STP Connect TLV [ RFC-to-be ] [ TBD-at-Registration ] STP Disconnect TLV [ RFC-to-be ] [ TBD-at-Registration ] STP System Config TLV [ RFC-to-be ] [ TBD-at-Registration ] STP Region Name TLV [ RFC-to-be ] [ TBD-at-Registration ] STP Revision Level TLV [ RFC-to-be ] [ TBD-at-Registration ] STP Instance Priority TLV [ RFC-to-be ] [ TBD-at-Registration ] STP Configuration Digest TLV [ RFC-to-be ] [ TBD-at-Registration ] STP Topology Changed Instances TLV[ RFC-to-be ] [ TBD-at-Registration ] STP STP CIST Root Time TLV [ RFC-to-be ] [ TBD-at-Registration ] STP MSTI Root Time TLV [ RFC-to-be ] [ TBD-at-Registration ] STP Synchronization Request TLV [ RFC-to-be ] [ TBD-at-Registration ] STP Synchronization Data TLV [ RFC-to-be ] [ TBD-at-Registration ] STP Disconnect Cause TLV [ RFC-to-be ] IANA understands that this is the only action required upon approval of this document. Note: The actions requested in this document will not be completed until the document has been approved for publication as an RFC. This message is only to confirm what actions will be performed. |
2015-09-15
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04 | Brian Carpenter | Request for Last Call review by GENART Completed: Ready with Issues. Reviewer: Brian Carpenter. |
2015-09-11
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04 | Jean Mahoney | Request for Last Call review by GENART is assigned to Brian Carpenter |
2015-09-11
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04 | Jean Mahoney | Request for Last Call review by GENART is assigned to Brian Carpenter |
2015-09-11
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04 | Gunter Van de Velde | Request for Last Call review by OPSDIR is assigned to Lionel Morand |
2015-09-11
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04 | Gunter Van de Velde | Request for Last Call review by OPSDIR is assigned to Lionel Morand |
2015-09-10
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04 | Tero Kivinen | Request for Last Call review by SECDIR is assigned to Shawn Emery |
2015-09-10
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04 | Tero Kivinen | Request for Last Call review by SECDIR is assigned to Shawn Emery |
2015-09-09
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04 | Amy Vezza | IANA Review state changed to IANA - Review Needed |
2015-09-09
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04 | Amy Vezza | The following Last Call announcement was sent out: From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce CC: Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org Sender: Subject: Last Call: (STP Application of ICCP) to … The following Last Call announcement was sent out: From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce CC: Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org Sender: Subject: Last Call: (STP Application of ICCP) to Proposed Standard The IESG has received a request from the Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services WG (pals) to consider the following document: - 'STP Application of ICCP' as Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2015-09-23. Exceptionally, comments may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting. Abstract Inter-Chassis Communication Protocol (ICCP) supports an inter-chassis redundancy mechanism which is used to support high network availability. In this document, the PEs in a Redundancy Group (RG) running ICCP are used to offer multi-homed connectivity to Spanning Tree Protocol (STP) networks to improve availability of the STP networks. The ICCP TLVs and usage for the ICCP STP application are defined. The file can be obtained via https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pwe3-iccp-stp/ IESG discussion can be tracked via https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pwe3-iccp-stp/ballot/ No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D. |
2015-09-09
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04 | Amy Vezza | IESG state changed to In Last Call from Last Call Requested |
2015-09-09
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04 | Deborah Brungard | Last call was requested |
2015-09-09
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04 | Deborah Brungard | IESG state changed to Last Call Requested from AD is watching::AD Followup |
2015-09-09
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04 | Deborah Brungard | Ballot approval text was generated |
2015-09-09
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04 | Deborah Brungard | Ballot writeup was changed |
2015-09-09
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04 | Deborah Brungard | Last call announcement was generated |
2015-08-04
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04 | (System) | Sub state has been changed to AD Followup from Revised ID Needed |
2015-08-04
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04 | Mingui Zhang | New version available: draft-ietf-pwe3-iccp-stp-04.txt |
2015-07-09
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03 | Deborah Brungard | IESG state changed to AD is watching::Revised I-D Needed from AD Evaluation::Revised I-D Needed |
2015-03-25
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03 | Amy Vezza | Shepherding AD changed to Deborah Brungard |
2015-03-22
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03 | Adrian Farrel | English language review currently in progress will lead to a new revision |
2015-03-22
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03 | Adrian Farrel | IESG state changed to AD Evaluation::Revised I-D Needed from AD Evaluation::AD Followup |
2015-03-09
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03 | (System) | Sub state has been changed to AD Followup from Revised ID Needed |
2015-03-09
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03 | Mingui Zhang | New version available: draft-ietf-pwe3-iccp-stp-03.txt |
2015-02-11
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02 | Adrian Farrel | AD review ====== Hello authors, I have done my usual AD review of your draft. The purpose of the review is to ensure that the … AD review ====== Hello authors, I have done my usual AD review of your draft. The purpose of the review is to ensure that the document is ready to go forward for IETF last call and IESG evaluation, and to catch any issues before those stages in the process. My review has uncovered a number of issues that I would like you to address before I advance the document. You may make the changes and post a new revision, or you can discuss the issues with me and tell me I am wrong (very happy if you do that! :-) Additionally, if you can find someone who is interested in this work who can perform an English language review for you that would be really helpful. If not, the RFC Editor will try to fix up the English, but there is a risk that they will break the technical meaning when they process the text. I have asked the PALS working group for a volunteer, and Ignas Bagdonas (ibagdona.ietf@gmail.com) has offered to help. Please contact him direct. But you might also know someone who could help with this. I suggest that you wait for this review and then combine it with the fixes to the comments I have noted below. In the meantime, I will mark the I-D as "revised I-D needed". Thanks for the work, Adrian ==== idnits notes some problems with the references. == Missing Reference: 'RFC5226' is mentioned on line 981, but not defined == Unused Reference: 'RFC6310' is defined on line 1032, but no explicit reference was found in the text == Outdated reference: draft-ietf-pwe3-iccp has been published as RFC 7275 --- The document shepherd noted: > Also, as I was writing this up, I noticed in several places that there > was a consistent typo that transposed "RFC 7275" as "RFC 7257". > > There is one additional typo I noticed during final review, for > consistency with RFC 7275, the term "Redundant Group (RG)" should be > "Redundancy Group (RG)". This comes up twice in the draft. Again, this > can be fixed by the RFC Editor. Please fix these issues now. --- Your IANA considerations section needs some work. You need to say: The IANA maintains a top-level registry called "Pseudowire Name Spaces (PWE3)". It has a sub-registry called "ICC RG Parameter Types". IANA is requested to make 13 allocations from this registry as shown below. IANA is requested to allocate the codepoints in a sequential block starting from the next available value in the range marked for assignment by IETF review 0x2000-0x2FFF). All assignments should reference this document. Parameter Type Description -------------- --------------------------------- TBD1 STP Connect TLV TBD2 STP Disconnect TLV TBD3 STP System Config TLV TBD4 STP Region Name TLV TBD5 STP Revision Level TLV TBD6 STP Instance Priority TLV TBD7 STP Configuration Digest TLV TBD8 STP Topology Changed Instances TLV TBD9 STP STP CIST Root Time TLV TBD10 STP MSTI Root Time TLV TBD11 STP Synchronization Request TLV TBD12 STP Synchronization Data TLV TBD13 STP Disconnect Cause TLV Now you will need to go through the document and replace the specific numbers you have used with the "TBD" indicators in this table. --- 3.3.4 has two fields that need more explanation... - Pri The Instance Priority How is this field interpreted? Does a higher or lower value indicate a higher priority? - InstanceID The instance identification number of the MSTI. Where does this value come from and how is it encoded (presumably in line format). --- In 3.4.1 - InstanceID List The list of the instances whose topology is changed as indicated by the Topology Change Notification (TCN) Messages as specified in [802.1q] Section 13.14. Assuming this is a list of InstanceID values as found in 3.3.4 you need to explain how this list is formed. Does a list with two entries look like 0 1 2 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | InstanceID#1 | InstanceID#2 | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Or like... 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | InstanceID#1 | rsvd | InstanceID#2 | rsvd | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Or like... 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | rsvd | InstanceID#1 | rsvd | InstanceID#2 | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ If the first case, how do you set the length field for the TLV? --- In 3.4.2, I think you can say the exact vale of Length. --- Also in 3.4.2 you have four fields conveying time values. You need to tell us what units they are in. --- Section 3.4.3 defines a TLV with a strange name. The "STP MSTI Root Time" has no concept of "time" carried in it. Perhaps the remaining hops refers to the "Time To Live"? It would be nice if the text explained this. --- Also in 3.4.3 I think you can say the exact value of Length. --- Also in 3.4.3 there is an InstanceID using 16 bits, but it appears (from 3.3.4) that InstanceIDs only use 12 bits. --- Section 3.5 - Request Type 14-bits specifying the request type, encoded as follows: 0x00 Request Configuration Data 0x01 Request State Data 0x3FFF Request All Data Curiously, this is a 16-bit field. Can you help us to understand where the 14 bits of information are placed in the field. --- Section 3.6 - Flags 2 octets, response flags encoded as follows: 0x00 Synchronization Data Start 0x01 Synchronization Data End Are you saying you cannot set both "Data Start" and "Data End" on the same message? If so, then what you have defined is one flag. 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ |U|F| Type=0x004B | Length | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Request Number | Flags |S| +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ The S-flag occupies the least significant bit of the Flags field and is interpreted as follows: S = 0 : Synchronization Data Start S = 1 : Synchronization Data End But if you allow start and end on the same message you need two flags. 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ |U|F| Type=0x004B | Length | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Request Number | Flags |E|S| +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ The S-flag is interpreted as follows: S = 1 : Synchronization Data Start The E-flag is interpreted as follows: E = 1 : Synchronization Data End If is not valid for both flags to be clear at the same time. Please decide which you mean. Now, also please tell me about the other Flags. Will they ever be defined? - If "yes", then I think you need a new IANA registry, and you should point to the new subsection of Section 6 that you will need to write. - If "no", then I think you should mark the field as Reserved and not Flags. --- While the ICC security considerations apply here, I think Section 5 is a little thin. It seems to me that using this approach, an attack on ICC (running in the provider's network) can break not only the ability to deliver traffic across the provider's network, but the ability to route traffic within the customer's network. That is, careful attack on ICC can break STP within the customer network. Perhaps I am wrong, or perhaps you need to discuss this. |
2015-02-11
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02 | Adrian Farrel | IESG state changed to AD Evaluation::Revised I-D Needed from AD Evaluation |
2015-02-11
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02 | Adrian Farrel | Clarifications received |
2015-02-11
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02 | Adrian Farrel | IESG state changed to AD Evaluation from AD Evaluation::Point Raised - writeup needed |
2015-02-08
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02 | Adrian Farrel | Question raised with the authors about why they are selecting code points from the Expert Review range and not from the IETF Consensus range. |
2015-02-08
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02 | Adrian Farrel | IESG state changed to AD Evaluation::Point Raised - writeup needed from AD Evaluation |
2015-02-02
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02 | Adrian Farrel | Ballot writeup was changed |
2015-02-02
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02 | Adrian Farrel | As required by RFC 4858, this is the current template for the Document Shepherd Write-Up. Changes are expected over time. This version is dated … As required by RFC 4858, this is the current template for the Document Shepherd Write-Up. Changes are expected over time. This version is dated 24 February 2012. (1) What type of RFC is being requested (BCP, Proposed Standard, Internet Standard, Informational, Experimental, or Historic)? Why is this the proper type of RFC? Is this type of RFC indicated in the title page header? Proposed Standard. This draft specifies a new application for the ICCP protocol, RFC 7275. The title page is correct. (2) The IESG approval announcement includes a Document Announcement Write-Up. Please provide such a Document Announcement Write-Up. Recent examples can be found in the "Action" announcements for approved documents. The approval announcement contains the following sections: Technical Summary Inter-Chassis Communication Protocol (ICCP) supports an inter-chassis redundancy mechanism which achieves high availability. In this document, the PEs in a Redundancy Group (RG) running ICCP are used to offer multi-homed connectivity to Spanning Tree Protocol (STP) networks. The ICCP TLVs for the STP application are defined, therefore PEs from the RG can make use of these TLVs to synchronize the state and configuration data of the STP network. The operation logic of the application and the usage of these ICCP TLVs are specified. Working Group Summary As a result of WG last call, a number of improvements were made to the draft from revision -01 to -02, largely based on review comments from Alexander (Sasha) Vainshtein. However, not all of Sasha's suggested changes were included, which left him a bit dissatisfied. As a result, he may comment during IETF last call. Because of the changes, the WG was given a chance to re-review revision -02, and no further WG comments were received. So the WG certainly has rough consensus. Document Quality There is at least one implementation in progress the last time that this was polled. See my previous comment about Sasha Vainshtein's review and subsequent changes. Personnel Andy Malisis the Document Shepherd Adrian Farrel is the Responsible Area Director (3) Briefly describe the review of this document that was performed by the Document Shepherd. If this version of the document is not ready for publication, please explain why the document is being forwarded to the IESG. I was included in the email trail between Sasha and the authors and have reviewed the resulting draft. Comments that I had during those emails were also taken into account. (4) Does the document Shepherd have any concerns about the depth or breadth of the reviews that have been performed? No, see discussion above. (5) Do portions of the document need review from a particular or from broader perspective, e.g., security, operational complexity, AAA, DNS, DHCP, XML, or internationalization? If so, describe the review that took place. No. (6) Describe any specific concerns or issues that the Document Shepherd has with this document that the Responsible Area Director and/or the IESG should be aware of? For example, perhaps he or she is uncomfortable with certain parts of the document, or has concerns whether there really is a need for it. In any event, if the WG has discussed those issues and has indicated that it still wishes to advance the document, detail those concerns here. None. (7) Has each author confirmed that any and all appropriate IPR disclosures required for full conformance with the provisions of BCP 78 and BCP 79 have already been filed. If not, explain why. Yes. (8) Has an IPR disclosure been filed that references this document? If so, summarize any WG discussion and conclusion regarding the IPR disclosures. No. (9) How solid is the WG consensus behind this document? Does it represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others being silent, or does the WG as a whole understand and agree with it? The draft received good comments during its development, and as I said before, extensive comments from Sasha during WG last call, and no WG dissent on the final review. (10) Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme discontent? If so, please summarise the areas of conflict in separate email messages to the Responsible Area Director. (It should be in a separate email because this questionnaire is publicly available.) No, just minor discontent from Sasha that not everything he proposed ended up in the final revision. He has not threatened an appeal, although he may comment during IETF last call. (11) Identify any ID nits the Document Shepherd has found in this document. (See http://www.ietf.org/tools/idnits/ and the Internet-Drafts Checklist). Boilerplate checks are not enough; this check needs to be thorough. There just a few very minor nits: == Missing Reference: 'RFC5226' is mentioned on line 981, but not defined == Unused Reference: 'RFC6310' is defined on line 1032, but no explicit reference was found in the text == Outdated reference: draft-ietf-pwe3-iccp has been published as RFC 7275 Also, as I was writing this up, I noticed in several places that there was a consistent typo that transposed "RFC 7275" as "RFC 7257". These can all be fixed by the RFC Editor. There is one additional typo I noticed during final review, for consistency with RFC 7275, the term "Redundant Group (RG)" should be "Redundancy Group (RG)". This comes up twice in the draft. Again, this can be fixed by the RFC Editor. (12) Describe how the document meets any required formal review criteria, such as the MIB Doctor, media type, and URI type reviews. N/A (13) Have all references within this document been identified as either normative or informative? Yes. (14) Are there normative references to documents that are not ready for advancement or are otherwise in an unclear state? If such normative references exist, what is the plan for their completion? None. (15) Are there downward normative references references (see RFC 3967)? If so, list these downward references to support the Area Director in the Last Call procedure. None. (16) Will publication of this document change the status of any existing RFCs? Are those RFCs listed on the title page header, listed in the abstract, and discussed in the introduction? If the RFCs are not listed in the Abstract and Introduction, explain why, and point to the part of the document where the relationship of this document to the other RFCs is discussed. If this information is not in the document, explain why the WG considers it unnecessary. N/A (17) Describe the Document Shepherd's review of the IANA considerations section, especially with regard to its consistency with the body of the document. Confirm that all protocol extensions that the document makes are associated with the appropriate reservations in IANA registries. Confirm that any referenced IANA registries have been clearly identified. Confirm that newly created IANA registries include a detailed specification of the initial contents for the registry, that allocations procedures for future registrations are defined, and a reasonable name for the new registry has been suggested (see RFC 5226). There are no new registries defined. The draft does request new values in the "ICC RG Parameter Types" registry located at http://www.iana.org/assignments/pwe3- parameters/pwe3-parameters.xhtml#icc-rg . The particular requested values are in the "Expert Review" range. At the time that this registry was established by RFC 7275, Stewart Bryant was the responsible AD, and as I recall, he named Matthew Bocci and Samer Salem as the experts. (18) List any new IANA registries that require Expert Review for future allocations. Provide any public guidance that the IESG would find useful in selecting the IANA Experts for these new registries. None. (19) Describe reviews and automated checks performed by the Document Shepherd to validate sections of the document written in a formal language, such as XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, etc. N/A |
2015-01-22
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02 | Adrian Farrel | IESG state changed to AD Evaluation from Publication Requested |
2015-01-22
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02 | Adrian Farrel | Ballot writeup was changed |
2015-01-22
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02 | Adrian Farrel | Ballot writeup was generated |
2015-01-21
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02 | Andy Malis | As required by RFC 4858, this is the current template for the Document Shepherd Write-Up. Changes are expected over time. This version is dated … As required by RFC 4858, this is the current template for the Document Shepherd Write-Up. Changes are expected over time. This version is dated 24 February 2012. (1) What type of RFC is being requested (BCP, Proposed Standard, Internet Standard, Informational, Experimental, or Historic)? Why is this the proper type of RFC? Is this type of RFC indicated in the title page header? Proposed Standard. This draft specifies a new application for the ICCP protocol, RFC 7275. The title page is correct. (2) The IESG approval announcement includes a Document Announcement Write-Up. Please provide such a Document Announcement Write-Up. Recent examples can be found in the "Action" announcements for approved documents. The approval announcement contains the following sections: Technical Summary Relevant content can frequently be found in the abstract and/or introduction of the document. If not, this may be an indication that there are deficiencies in the abstract or introduction. Inter-Chassis Communication Protocol (ICCP) supports an inter-chassis redundancy mechanism which achieves high availability. In this document, the PEs in a Redundancy Group (RG) running ICCP are used to offer multi-homed connectivity to Spanning Tree Protocol (STP) networks. The ICCP TLVs for the STP application are defined, therefore PEs from the RG can make use of these TLVs to synchronize the state and configuration data of the STP network. The operation logic of the application and the usage of these ICCP TLVs are specified. Working Group Summary Was there anything in WG process that is worth noting? For example, was there controversy about particular points or were there decisions where the consensus was particularly rough? As a result of WG last call, a number of improvements were made to the draft from revision -01 to -02, largely based on review comments from Alexander (Sasha) Vainshtein. However, not all of Sasha's suggested changes were included, which left him a bit dissatisfied. As a result, he may comment during IETF last call. Because of the changes, the WG was given a chance to re-review revision -02, and no further WG comments were received. So the WG certainly has rough consensus. Document Quality Are there existing implementations of the protocol? Have a significant number of vendors indicated their plan to implement the specification? Are there any reviewers that merit special mention as having done a thorough review, e.g., one that resulted in important changes or a conclusion that the document had no substantive issues? If there was a MIB Doctor, Media Type or other expert review, what was its course (briefly)? In the case of a Media Type review, on what date was the request posted? There is at least one implementation in progress the last time that this was polled. See my previous comment about Sasha Vainshtein's review and subsequent changes. Personnel Who is the Document Shepherd? Who is the Responsible Area Director? Andy Malis, Adrian Farrel (3) Briefly describe the review of this document that was performed by the Document Shepherd. If this version of the document is not ready for publication, please explain why the document is being forwarded to the IESG. I was included in the email trail between Sasha and the authors and have reviewed the resulting draft. Comments that I had during those emails were also taken into account. (4) Does the document Shepherd have any concerns about the depth or breadth of the reviews that have been performed? No, see discussion above. (5) Do portions of the document need review from a particular or from broader perspective, e.g., security, operational complexity, AAA, DNS, DHCP, XML, or internationalization? If so, describe the review that took place. No. (6) Describe any specific concerns or issues that the Document Shepherd has with this document that the Responsible Area Director and/or the IESG should be aware of? For example, perhaps he or she is uncomfortable with certain parts of the document, or has concerns whether there really is a need for it. In any event, if the WG has discussed those issues and has indicated that it still wishes to advance the document, detail those concerns here. None. (7) Has each author confirmed that any and all appropriate IPR disclosures required for full conformance with the provisions of BCP 78 and BCP 79 have already been filed. If not, explain why. Yes. (8) Has an IPR disclosure been filed that references this document? If so, summarize any WG discussion and conclusion regarding the IPR disclosures. No. (9) How solid is the WG consensus behind this document? Does it represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others being silent, or does the WG as a whole understand and agree with it? The draft received good comments during its development, and as I said before, extensive comments from Sasha during WG last call, and no WG dissent on the final review. (10) Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme discontent? If so, please summarise the areas of conflict in separate email messages to the Responsible Area Director. (It should be in a separate email because this questionnaire is publicly available.) No, just minor discontent from Sasha that not everything he proposed ended up in the final revision. He has not threatened an appeal, although he may comment during IETF last call. (11) Identify any ID nits the Document Shepherd has found in this document. (See http://www.ietf.org/tools/idnits/ and the Internet-Drafts Checklist). Boilerplate checks are not enough; this check needs to be thorough. There just a few very minor nits: == Missing Reference: 'RFC5226' is mentioned on line 981, but not defined == Unused Reference: 'RFC6310' is defined on line 1032, but no explicit reference was found in the text == Outdated reference: draft-ietf-pwe3-iccp has been published as RFC 7275 Also, as I was writing this up, I noticed in several places that there was a consistent typo that transposed "RFC 7275" as "RFC 7257". These can all be fixed by the RFC Editor. There is one additional typo I noticed during final review, for consistency with RFC 7275, the term "Redundant Group (RG)" should be "Redundancy Group (RG)". This comes up twice in the draft. Again, this can be fixed by the RFC Editor. (12) Describe how the document meets any required formal review criteria, such as the MIB Doctor, media type, and URI type reviews. N/A (13) Have all references within this document been identified as either normative or informative? Yes. (14) Are there normative references to documents that are not ready for advancement or are otherwise in an unclear state? If such normative references exist, what is the plan for their completion? None. (15) Are there downward normative references references (see RFC 3967)? If so, list these downward references to support the Area Director in the Last Call procedure. None. (16) Will publication of this document change the status of any existing RFCs? Are those RFCs listed on the title page header, listed in the abstract, and discussed in the introduction? If the RFCs are not listed in the Abstract and Introduction, explain why, and point to the part of the document where the relationship of this document to the other RFCs is discussed. If this information is not in the document, explain why the WG considers it unnecessary. N/A (17) Describe the Document Shepherd's review of the IANA considerations section, especially with regard to its consistency with the body of the document. Confirm that all protocol extensions that the document makes are associated with the appropriate reservations in IANA registries. Confirm that any referenced IANA registries have been clearly identified. Confirm that newly created IANA registries include a detailed specification of the initial contents for the registry, that allocations procedures for future registrations are defined, and a reasonable name for the new registry has been suggested (see RFC 5226). There are no new registries defined. The draft does request new values in the "ICC RG Parameter Types" registry located at http://www.iana.org/assignments/pwe3-parameters/pwe3-parameters.xhtml#icc-rg . The particular requested values are in the "Expert Review" range. At the time that this registry was established by RFC 7275, Stewart Bryant was the responsible AD, and as I recall, he named Matthew Bocci and Samer Salem as the experts. (18) List any new IANA registries that require Expert Review for future allocations. Provide any public guidance that the IESG would find useful in selecting the IANA Experts for these new registries. None. (19) Describe reviews and automated checks performed by the Document Shepherd to validate sections of the document written in a formal language, such as XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, etc. N/A |
2015-01-21
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02 | Andy Malis | State Change Notice email list changed to agmalis@gmail.com, draft-ietf-pwe3-iccp-stp.all@tools.ietf.org, pals-chairs@tools.ietf.org, pals@ietf.org |
2015-01-21
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02 | Andy Malis | Responsible AD changed to Adrian Farrel |
2015-01-21
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02 | Andy Malis | IESG state changed to Publication Requested |
2015-01-21
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02 | Andy Malis | IESG process started in state Publication Requested |
2015-01-21
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02 | Andy Malis | Tag Doc Shepherd Follow-up Underway cleared. |
2015-01-21
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02 | Andy Malis | IETF WG state changed to Submitted to IESG for Publication from WG Consensus: Waiting for Write-Up |
2015-01-21
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02 | Andy Malis | Changed document writeup |
2014-11-16
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02 | Cindy Morgan | Changed field(s): group,abstract |
2014-11-04
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02 | Andy Malis | Tag Doc Shepherd Follow-up Underway set. |
2014-11-04
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02 | Andy Malis | IETF WG state changed to WG Consensus: Waiting for Write-Up from In WG Last Call |
2014-10-22
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02 | Mingui Zhang | New version available: draft-ietf-pwe3-iccp-stp-02.txt |
2014-07-25
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01 | Andy Malis | Intended Status changed to Proposed Standard from None |
2014-07-25
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01 | Andy Malis | IETF WG state changed to In WG Last Call from WG Document |
2014-05-14
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01 | Andy Malis | Replaced by working group adoption |
2014-05-14
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01 | Andy Malis | This document now replaces draft-zhang-pwe3-iccp-stp instead of None |
2014-04-23
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01 | Mingui Zhang | New version available: draft-ietf-pwe3-iccp-stp-01.txt |
2013-12-24
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00 | Andy Malis | Document shepherd changed to Andrew G. Malis |
2013-12-24
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00 | Mingui Zhang | New version available: draft-ietf-pwe3-iccp-stp-00.txt |