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Open Pluggable Edge Services (OPES) Treatment of IAB Considerations
draft-ietf-opes-iab-05

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Date Rev. By Action
2012-08-22
05 (System) post-migration administrative database adjustment to the No Objection position for Margaret Wasserman
2012-08-22
05 (System) post-migration administrative database adjustment to the No Objection position for Ted Hardie
2012-08-22
05 (System) post-migration administrative database adjustment to the No Objection position for Russ Housley
2004-04-20
05 Amy Vezza State Changes to RFC Ed Queue from Approved-announcement sent by Amy Vezza
2004-04-19
05 Amy Vezza IESG state changed to Approved-announcement sent
2004-04-19
05 Amy Vezza IESG has approved the document
2004-04-19
05 Amy Vezza Closed "Approve" ballot
2004-04-19
05 Amy Vezza State Changes to Approved-announcement to be sent from IESG Evaluation::Revised ID Needed by Amy Vezza
2004-04-19
05 Russ Housley [Ballot Position Update] Position for Russ Housley has been changed to No Objection from Discuss by Russ Housley
2004-04-12
05 (System) New version available: draft-ietf-opes-iab-05.txt
2004-03-25
05 Ted Hardie Shepherding AD has been changed to Ted Hardie from Ned Freed
2004-02-19
05 Amy Vezza State Changes to IESG Evaluation::Revised ID Needed from IESG Evaluation - Defer by Amy Vezza
2004-02-19
05 Allison Mankin [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Allison Mankin by Allison Mankin
2004-02-18
05 Ted Hardie [Ballot Position Update] Position for Ted Hardie has been changed to No Objection from Undefined by Ted Hardie
2004-02-18
05 Ted Hardie
[Ballot comment]
I'm not sure how this text in 7.:

  In some environments, it is technically
  possible to adapt URIs (and other kinds of identifiers …
[Ballot comment]
I'm not sure how this text in 7.:

  In some environments, it is technically
  possible to adapt URIs (and other kinds of identifiers or addresses)
  using documented OPES mechanisms. The OPES framework cannot
  effectively prohibit any specific adaptations.

relates to the IAB requirement.  If they mean "URI adaptation" occurs
before URI resolution and may, thereby influencing that resolution,
then a clearer statement of that seems to be required.  If they mean
something else, a pointer to the definition here would be useful.

As it is, the requirement says: 

  "OPES documentation must be clear in describing these services as
  being applied to the result of URI resolution, not as URI resolution
  itself."[RFC3238]


Did they really mean to imply the Cable company would have terms of use that
demanded you look at their advertisements for porn (section 5.1)?

  For example, a Cable Company Internet Service Provider (Cable ISP) may
  provide a user-configurable porn filtering service to its subscribers
  while having an agreement with the parent Cable Company to send
  notifications to the content provider when clients (content
  consumers) use the same filter to block Company's advertisement
  images.  If the Cable Company deems such subscriber actions
  inappropriate, the company may contact individual subscribers and
  enforce their ISP usage policy according to the terms of the service
  agreement.

I can read it other ways, but this seems like they might want to fix it.
Not a blocking comment as this is certainly an arresting example,
but it seems unintended.  Shifting it "to block access to the
Company's general-purpose advertisement images" might help.
2004-02-18
05 Ted Hardie [Ballot Position Update] Position for Ted Hardie has been changed to Undefined from Discuss by Ted Hardie
2004-02-18
05 Ted Hardie
[Ballot comment]
'm not sure how this text in 7.:

  In some environments, it is technically
  possible to adapt URIs (and other kinds of identifiers …
[Ballot comment]
'm not sure how this text in 7.:

  In some environments, it is technically
  possible to adapt URIs (and other kinds of identifiers or addresses)
  using documented OPES mechanisms. The OPES framework cannot
  effectively prohibit any specific adaptations.

relates to the IAB requirement.  If they mean "URI adaptation" occurs
before URI resolution and may, thereby influencing that resolution,
then a clearer statement of that seems to be required.  If they mean
something else, a pointer to the definition here would be useful.

As it is, the requirement says: 

  "OPES documentation must be clear in describing these services as
  being applied to the result of URI resolution, not as URI resolution
  itself."[RFC3238]


Did they really mean to imply the Cable company would have terms of use that
demanded you look at their advertisements for porn (section 5.1)?

  For example, a Cable Company Internet Service Provider (Cable ISP) may
  provide a user-configurable porn filtering service to its subscribers
  while having an agreement with the parent Cable Company to send
  notifications to the content provider when clients (content
  consumers) use the same filter to block Company's advertisement
  images.  If the Cable Company deems such subscriber actions
  inappropriate, the company may contact individual subscribers and
  enforce their ISP usage policy according to the terms of the service
  agreement.

I can read it other ways, but this seems like they might want to fix it.
Not a blocking comment as this is certainly an arresting example,
but it seems unintended.  Shifting it "to block access to the
Company's general-purpose advertisement images" might help.
2004-02-18
05 Ted Hardie
[Ballot discuss]
I'm not sure how this text in 7.:

  In some environments, it is technically
  possible to adapt URIs (and other kinds …
[Ballot discuss]
I'm not sure how this text in 7.:

  In some environments, it is technically
  possible to adapt URIs (and other kinds of identifiers or addresses)
  using documented OPES mechanisms. The OPES framework cannot
  effectively prohibit any specific adaptations.

relates to the IAB requirement.  If they mean "URI adaptation" occurs
before URI resolution and may, thereby influencing that resolution,
then a clearer statement of that seems to be required.  If they mean
something else, a pointer to the definition here would be useful.

As it is, the requirement says: 

  "OPES documentation must be clear in describing these services as
  being applied to the result of URI resolution, not as URI resolution
  itself."[RFC3238]
2004-02-18
05 Ted Hardie
[Ballot discuss]
I'm not sure how this text in 7.:

  In some environments, it is technically
  possible to adapt URIs (and other kinds …
[Ballot discuss]
I'm not sure how this text in 7.:

  In some environments, it is technically
  possible to adapt URIs (and other kinds of identifiers or addresses)
  using documented OPES mechanisms. The OPES framework cannot
  effectively prohibit any specific adaptations.

relates to the IAB requirement.  If they mean "URI adaptation" occurs
before URI resolution and may, therefore effect that resolution,
then a clearer statement of that seems to be required.  As it is, the
requirement says: 

  "OPES documentation must be clear in describing these services as
  being applied to the result of URI resolution, not as URI resolution
  itself."[RFC3238]

So if they are saying http://www.example.com/bar.txt" triggers an
adaptation to h
2004-02-18
05 Ted Hardie [Ballot Position Update] Position for Ted Hardie has been changed to Discuss from Undefined by Ted Hardie
2004-02-18
05 Ted Hardie
[Ballot comment]
Did they really mean to imply the Cable company would have terms of use that
demanded you look at their advertisements for porn …
[Ballot comment]
Did they really mean to imply the Cable company would have terms of use that
demanded you look at their advertisements for porn (section 5.1)?

  For example, a Cable Company Internet Service Provider (Cable ISP) may
  provide a user-configurable porn filtering service to its subscribers
  while having an agreement with the parent Cable Company to send
  notifications to the content provider when clients (content
  consumers) use the same filter to block Company's advertisement
  images.  If the Cable Company deems such subscriber actions
  inappropriate, the company may contact individual subscribers and
  enforce their ISP usage policy according to the terms of the service
  agreement.

I can read it other ways, but this seems like they might want to fix it.
Not a blocking comment as this is certainly an arresting example,
but it seems unintended.  Shifting it "to block access to the
Company's general-purpose advertisement images" might help.
2004-02-18
05 Ted Hardie [Ballot Position Update] New position, Undefined, has been recorded for Ted Hardie by Ted Hardie
2004-02-18
05 David Kessens [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for David Kessens by David Kessens
2004-02-18
05 Margaret Cullen [Ballot Position Update] Position for Margaret Wasserman has been changed to No Objection from Discuss by Margaret Wasserman
2004-02-17
05 Harald Alvestrand
[Ballot comment]
Comment from Spencer Dawkins, Gen-ART:

If this draft needs to be published as an RFC (why? especially since
it has normative references that …
[Ballot comment]
Comment from Spencer Dawkins, Gen-ART:

If this draft needs to be published as an RFC (why? especially since
it has normative references that will prevent its publication until
OPES is finished anyway), it's close to OK to publish. I have two
comments:

- Section 3 on "one-party consent" seems unresponsive to the IAB
concern. The authors can identify situations where one-party consent
isn't reasonable or practical, but don't name situations where
one-party consent DOES make sense. The rest of the sections seemed
like the WG "gets it". This section does not.

- The last paragraph in Section 5.1 was unclear to me. It might help
if the two entities named were not the Cable Company ISP and the Cable
Company, but it took about four reads before I could even start to
guess what this example had to do with notifications vs trace.
2004-02-17
05 Harald Alvestrand [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Harald Alvestrand by Harald Alvestrand
2004-02-06
05 (System) Removed from agenda for telechat - 2004-02-05
2004-02-04
05 Ted Hardie State Changes to IESG Evaluation - Defer from IESG Evaluation by Ted Hardie
2004-02-04
05 Margaret Cullen [Ballot discuss]
I don't think that we should approve this document until we
hear back from the IAB regarding whether it addresses their
issues.
2004-02-04
05 Margaret Cullen [Ballot Position Update] New position, Discuss, has been recorded for Margaret Wasserman by Margaret Wasserman
2004-02-04
05 Russ Housley
[Ballot discuss]
RFC 3238 has a lot to say about data integrity.  It says, for example:
  >
  > One of the goals of …
[Ballot discuss]
RFC 3238 has a lot to say about data integrity.  It says, for example:
  >
  > One of the goals of the OPES architecture must be to maintain the
  > robustness long cited as one of the overriding goals of the Internet
  > architecture [Clark88].  Given this, we recommend that the IESG
  > require that the OPES architecture protect end-to-end data integrity
  > by supporting end-host detection and response to inappropriate
  > behavior by OPES intermediaries.
  >
  Yet, the word 'integrity' does not appear in this document.

  The security considerations are inadequate.  At a minimum, I would like
  to see pointers to sections that discuss of integrity and confidentiality.
2004-02-04
05 Russ Housley [Ballot Position Update] New position, Discuss, has been recorded for Russ Housley by Russ Housley
2004-02-03
05 Steven Bellovin [Ballot comment]
I would like to hear the IAB's opinion of this document.
2004-02-03
05 Steven Bellovin [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Steve Bellovin by Steve Bellovin
2004-01-29
05 Ned Freed [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Ned Freed
2004-01-29
05 Ned Freed Ballot has been issued by Ned Freed
2004-01-29
05 Ned Freed Created "Approve" ballot
2004-01-29
05 (System) Ballot writeup text was added
2004-01-29
05 (System) Last call text was added
2004-01-29
05 (System) Ballot approval text was added
2004-01-29
05 Ned Freed Placed on agenda for telechat - 2004-02-05 by Ned Freed
2004-01-29
05 Ned Freed [Note]: 'A bit late getting this on the agenda, sorry' added by Ned Freed
2004-01-29
05 Ned Freed State Changes to IESG Evaluation from Publication Requested by Ned Freed
2003-12-05
05 Dinara Suleymanova Draft Added by Dinara Suleymanova
2003-12-04
04 (System) New version available: draft-ietf-opes-iab-04.txt
2003-10-27
03 (System) New version available: draft-ietf-opes-iab-03.txt
2003-09-24
02 (System) New version available: draft-ietf-opes-iab-02.txt
2003-08-29
01 (System) New version available: draft-ietf-opes-iab-01.txt
2003-06-12
00 (System) New version available: draft-ietf-opes-iab-00.txt