Distributed Mobility Management: Current Practices and Gap Analysis
draft-ietf-dmm-best-practices-gap-analysis-09

[Ballot comment]
Thanks for your work on this draft. 

1. It looks good, but I'm wondering if a mention of privacy could be added.  This should have been in RFC7333, but it looks like that didn't happen (Stephen recommended some text in his comments to add it in that draft, now RFC).  Maybe this was discussed and there was a reason not to add it.  I don't remember the outcome, so I'll make a couple of suggestions of where I think it might be important in this draft.

In Gap 1-3, does the listed solution (or others for address discovery) lead to privacy concerns that should be mentioned?

Dynamic Home Agent Address Discovery (DHAAD): the use of the
            home agent (H) flag in Router Advertisements (which
            indicates that the router sending the Router Advertisement
            is also functioning as a Mobile IPv6 home agent on the link)
            and the MAP option in Router Advertisements defined by
            HMIPv6.

Also, I don't see a mention of privacy in this gap analysis or RFC7333.  Could you add it in 5.7.  Security considerations - REQ7?  I know this comes from RFC7333, so that would have the text

Change from:
  In addition, with security taken
  into consideration early in the design, a DMM solution cannot
  introduce new security risks, or amplify existing security risks,
  that cannot be mitigated by existing security protocols and
  mechanisms.

To:
  In addition, with security taken
  into consideration early in the design, a DMM solution cannot
  introduce new security risks or privacy concerns, or amplify existing security risks,
  that cannot be mitigated by existing security protocols and
  mechanisms.

2. In Section 6, Security Considerations of this draft, should there be a reference to RFC7333 for the detailed requirements? 

Thank you.

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WG (dmm) to consider the following document:
- 'Distributed Mobility Management: Current practices and gap analysis'
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Abstract


  This document analyzes deployment practices of existing IP mobility
  protocols in a distributed mobility management environment.  It then
  identifies existing limitations when compared to the requirements
  defined for a distributed mobility management solution.




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As required by RFC 4858, this is the current template for the Document
Shepherd Write-Up.

Changes are expected over time. This version is dated 24 February 2012.

(1) What type of RFC is being requested (BCP, Proposed Standard,
Internet Standard, Informational, Experimental, or Historic)?  Why
is this the proper type of RFC?  Is this type of RFC indicated in the
title page header?

  The document aims for Informational. Since the document discusses generic
  current deployment practices and identified gaps in the light of DMM, the
  document does not define any protocol or even guidelines for new types
  of deployments.

  The RFC type is indicated in the document header page.

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Write-Up. Please provide such a Document Announcement Write-Up. Recent
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Technical Summary

  The present document analyzes deployment practices of existing IP
  Mobility protocols in a distributed mobility management environment.
  The analyzed IP level (i.e., layer 3) mobility protocols include those
  developed by IETF and also those developed by other SDOs that have
  been widely deployed. Due the plurality of different mobility enabling
  protocol and solutions, the analysis has been intentionally limited to
  IP level (i.e., layer 3) protocol that typically are based on some sort of
  tunneling solution. The document then identifies existing limitations when
  compared to the distributed mobility management requirements defined in
  draft-ietf-dmm-requirements for a distributed mobility management solution.

  On the existing IP mobility enabling architectures (outside mobile VPNs or
  IETF defined IP mobility solutions), the document considers only the 3GPP
  GPRS/EPS system and service provider Wi-Fi due their dominant positions
  in the market place.

Working Group Summary

  The document creation was not entirely smooth as seen from the timeline.
  There are several aspects in the existing deployments making use of IP
  mobility (such as the 3GPP GPRS/EPS) that already today include many
  enhancements on the deployment & product feature level that can be seen
  as a step towards distributed mobility management. The line between what
  is a gap and what can be achieved with today's tools was not always exactly
  clear. However, the WG has an agreement on the gaps described in this
  document and the fact that the most prevalent solutions that exist are not
  defined in IETF and are specific to certain system architectures.

Document Quality

  There are no implementations of this document, since it only
  presents an analysis of existing protocols and deployments to
  what is intended to be achieved with distributed mobility management.

  The document has received multiple thorough reviews in the WG.

Personnel

  Jouni Korhonen (jouni.nospam@gmail.com) is the document shepherd.
  Brian Haberman (briad@innivationslab.net) is the AD.

(3) Briefly describe the review of this document that was performed by
the Document Shepherd.  If this version of the document is not ready
for publication, please explain why the document is being forwarded to
the IESG.

  The document shepherd has done multiple reviews on the document
  during its lifetime. The latest review is done before the proto write-up
  submission and the document shepherd thinks the document is ready
  to leave the WG.

(4) Does the document Shepherd have any concerns about the depth or
breadth of the reviews that have been performed? 

  From shepherd's point of view no. However, it is obvious there are
  differing views outside IP mobility community on the entire topic so the
  IETF LC probably raises new comments and proposals to enhance the
  document, since the distributed mobility management enters other
  areas in IP communication that have not been typical for IP Mobility
  protocols (such as routing or specific attributes to make use of better
  proximity of mobility anchors).

(5) Do portions of the document need review from a particular or from
broader perspective, e.g., security, operational complexity, AAA, DNS,
DHCP, XML, or internationalization? If so, describe the review that
took place.

  No.

(6) Describe any specific concerns or issues that the Document Shepherd
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IESG should be aware of? For example, perhaps he or she is uncomfortable
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is a need for it. In any event, if the WG has discussed those issues and
has indicated that it still wishes to advance the document, detail those
concerns here.

  There are few concerns. First, quite few gaps could be (and are in
  most parts) already solved within specific system architectures using
  technologies developed outside IETF. These have been discussed in
  the WG and acknowledged. The WG still saw a benefit to pursue
  solutions that are independent of a specific system architecture or link
  technology.

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  Yes.

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  No IPRs declared.

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  No.

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  IDnits only reports about the document creation date being in past
  and spacing issues in the text.

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  None needed.

(13) Have all references within this document been identified as
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  Yes.

(14) Are there normative references to documents that are not ready for
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  No.

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  No.

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Folks,

This email starts a one week WGLC #3 for draft-ietf-dmm-best-practices-gap-analysis-06. The WGLC ends 12th July 2014 EOB (EEST). Silence is accounted as an acceptance for the content.

Once the WGLC passes the next step is shipping the I-D out of the WG and we are then ready to move forward progressing the new WG work.

- Jouni (as a DMM co-chair)

Restating the previous since tags seemed to no change:

Folks,

This email starts a one week WGLC #2 for draft-ietf-dmm-best-practices-gap-analysis-04. Issue you comments to the mailing list and place possible tickets to the issue tracker. There are quite a few changed mainly to tackle Charlie's comments.

The WGLC ends 2ns June 2014 EOB (EEST). Silence is accounted as an acceptance for the content.

- Jouni (as a DMM co-chair)

Folks,

This email starts a one week WGLC #2 for draft-ietf-dmm-best-practices-gap-analysis-04. Issue you comments to the mailing list and place possible tickets to the issue tracker. There are quite a few changed mainly to tackle Charlie's comments.

The WGLC ends 2ns June 2014 EOB (EEST). Silence is accounted as an acceptance for the content.

- Jouni (as a DMM co-chair)