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Mapping RTP Streams to Controlling Multiple Streams for Telepresence (CLUE) Media Captures
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2017-02-27
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2017-02-27
14 Cindy Morgan IESG state changed to Approved-announcement sent from IESG Evaluation::AD Followup
2017-02-27
14 Cindy Morgan IESG has approved the document
2017-02-27
14 Cindy Morgan Closed "Approve" ballot
2017-02-27
14 Cindy Morgan Ballot approval text was generated
2017-02-27
14 Cindy Morgan Ballot writeup was changed
2017-02-27
14 Alissa Cooper [Ballot comment]
Magnus' review comments have been addressed.
2017-02-27
14 Alissa Cooper [Ballot Position Update] Position for Alissa Cooper has been changed to Yes from Discuss
2017-02-27
14 Paul Kyzivat
Shepherd writeup for draft-ietf-clue-rtp-mapping-14:

[This is based on the template version dated 24 February 2012.]

(1) What type of RFC is being requested (BCP, …
Shepherd writeup for draft-ietf-clue-rtp-mapping-14:

[This is based on the template version dated 24 February 2012.]

(1) What type of RFC is being requested (BCP, Proposed Standard,
Internet Standard, Informational, Experimental, or Historic)?  Why
is this the proper type of RFC?  Is this type of RFC indicated in the
title page header?

  This document is marked as Standards Track in the title page header,
  and that is appropriate - it is defining required functionality for CLUE.

(2) The IESG approval announcement includes a Document Announcement
Write-Up. Please provide such a Document Announcement Write-Up. Recent
examples can be found in the "Action" announcements for approved
documents. The approval announcement contains the following sections:

Technical Summary

  This document describes how the Real Time transport Protocol (RTP) is
  used in the context of the CLUE protocol (ControLling mUltiple
  streams for tElepresence).  It also describes the mechanisms and
  recommended practice for mapping RTP media streams defined in Session
  Description Protocol (SDP) to CLUE Media Captures and defines a new
  RTP header extension (CaptureId).

Working Group Summary

  Very late in the game we received substantial comments on this document
  from an RTP expert that had not been active in the work group. This
  led to some substantial revisions, primarily for alignment with other
  RTP-related documents. The primary effect was to remove a lot of text
  that was thought to be be confusing. Some tightening of language was
  also added to improve privacy.

Document Quality

  Are there existing implementations of the protocol?

    A prototype implementation has been built and demonstrated.

  Have a significant number of vendors indicated their plan to
  implement the specification?

    Not yet.

  Are there any reviewers that
  merit special mention as having done a thorough review,
  e.g., one that resulted in important changes or a
  conclusion that the document had no substantive issues?

    Colin Perkins and Magnus Westerlund made major comments that resulted
    in better alignment of this document with other work.

  If there was a MIB Doctor, Media Type or other expert review,
  what was its course (briefly)? In the case of a Media Type
  review, on what date was the request posted?

    N/A

Personnel

  Who is the Document Shepherd?

    Paul Kyzivat

  Who is the Responsible Area Director?

    Alissa Cooper

(3) Briefly describe the review of this document that was performed by
the Document Shepherd.  If this version of the document is not ready
for publication, please explain why the document is being forwarded to
the IESG.

  The shepherd has been an active reviewer of this document throughout
  its development, and reviewed it again in its entirety while preparing
  this writeup.

  In the view of this shepherd the document is ready for
  publication?

    YES.

(4) Does the document Shepherd have any concerns about the depth or
breadth of the reviews that have been performed?

  No concerns. The document has been thoroughly reviewed.

(5) Do portions of the document need review from a particular or from
broader perspective, e.g., security, operational complexity, AAA, DNS,
DHCP, XML, or internationalization? If so, describe the review that
took place.

  N/A

(6) Describe any specific concerns or issues that the Document Shepherd
has with this document that the Responsible Area Director and/or the
IESG should be aware of? For example, perhaps he or she is uncomfortable
with certain parts of the document, or has concerns whether there really
is a need for it. In any event, if the WG has discussed those issues and
has indicated that it still wishes to advance the document, detail those
concerns here.

  None

(7) Has each author confirmed that any and all appropriate IPR
disclosures required for full conformance with the provisions of BCP 78
and BCP 79 have already been filed. If not, explain why.

  Yes, each author has stated they have no IPR claims on the document.

(8) Has an IPR disclosure been filed that references this document?
If so, summarize any WG discussion and conclusion regarding the IPR
disclosures.

  No IPR has been filed against this document.

(9) How solid is the WG consensus behind this document? Does it
represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others
being silent, or does the WG as a whole understand and agree with it?

  There is strong WG consensus for this document by all those who have
  actively participated in the group.

(10) Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme
discontent? If so, please summarize the areas of conflict in separate
email messages to the Responsible Area Director. (It should be in a
separate email because this questionnaire is publicly available.)

  No.

(11) Identify any ID nits the Document Shepherd has found in this
document. (See https://www.ietf.org/tools/idnits/ and the Internet-Drafts
Checklist). Boilerplate checks are not enough; this check needs to be
thorough.

  There are no nits.

(12) Describe how the document meets any required formal review
criteria, such as the MIB Doctor, media type, and URI type reviews.

  N/A

(13) Have all references within this document been identified as
either normative or informative?

  Yes.

(14) Are there normative references to documents that are not ready for
advancement or are otherwise in an unclear state? If such normative
references exist, what is the plan for their completion?

  There are normative references to several other CLUE drafts.
  The intent is that these will all progress together.

  There is also a normative reference to
  draft-ietf-mmusic-sdp-bundle-negotiation-36. That draft is
  itself near to completion. Waiting on it is acceptable.

(15) Are there downward normative references references (see RFC 3967)?
If so, list these downward references to support the Area Director in
the Last Call procedure.

  There are no downrefs.

(16) Will publication of this document change the status of any
existing RFCs? Are those RFCs listed on the title page header, listed
in the abstract, and discussed in the introduction? If the RFCs are not
listed in the Abstract and Introduction, explain why, and point to the
part of the document where the relationship of this document to the
other RFCs is discussed. If this information is not in the document,
explain why the WG considers it unnecessary.

  This document doesn't change the status of any other document.

(17) Describe the Document Shepherd's review of the IANA considerations
section, especially with regard to its consistency with the body of the
document. Confirm that all protocol extensions that the document makes
are associated with the appropriate reservations in IANA registries.
Confirm that any referenced IANA registries have been clearly
identified. Confirm that newly created IANA registries include a
detailed specification of the initial contents for the registry, that
allocations procedures for future registrations are defined, and a
reasonable name for the new registry has been suggested (see RFC 5226).

  The IANA considerations section is in good order.

(18) List any new IANA registries that require Expert Review for future
allocations. Provide any public guidance that the IESG would find
useful in selecting the IANA Experts for these new registries.

  N/A - no new registries are defined.

(19) Describe reviews and automated checks performed by the Document
Shepherd to validate sections of the document written in a formal
language, such as XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, etc.

  None.

2017-02-27
14 Roni Even New version available: draft-ietf-clue-rtp-mapping-14.txt
2017-02-27
14 (System) New version approved
2017-02-27
14 (System) Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Jonathan Lennox , Roni Even
2017-02-27
14 Roni Even Uploaded new revision
2017-02-13
13 (System) Sub state has been changed to AD Followup from Revised ID Needed
2017-02-13
13 (System) IANA Review state changed to Version Changed - Review Needed from IANA - Not OK
2017-02-13
13 Roni Even New version available: draft-ietf-clue-rtp-mapping-13.txt
2017-02-13
13 (System) New version approved
2017-02-13
13 (System) Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: "Roni Even" , "Jonathan Lennox"
2017-02-13
13 Roni Even Uploaded new revision
2017-01-19
12 Cindy Morgan IESG state changed to IESG Evaluation::Revised I-D Needed from IESG Evaluation
2017-01-19
12 Cindy Morgan Changed consensus to Yes from Unknown
2017-01-19
12 Ben Campbell
[Ballot comment]
Thanks for addressing my DISCUSS point.  I'm leaving the other comments below for posterity; I think most of them have been resolved.

Substantive: …
[Ballot comment]
Thanks for addressing my DISCUSS point.  I'm leaving the other comments below for posterity; I think most of them have been resolved.

Substantive:

-3: The opening paragraph mentions "Point-to-Point, as well as Media-Mixing
  mixers, Media- Switching mixers, and Selective Forwarding Middleboxs." The section goes on to discuss the first two, but doesn't mention the last two.

-5, paragraph 4: "When the media provider
  switches the MC it sends within an MCC, it MUST send the captureID
  value for the MC just switched into the MCC."

Does MUST send mean MUST send both in the RTP header and as an RTCP SDES item, as in the previous sentence?

-5, paragraph 5:
It would be helpful to add a sentence or two clarifying the difference between an MCC that carries multiple MCs at the same time, and one that switch between MCs, but only carry one at a time.


Editorial:

- 1, 2nd paragraph: Please expand SSRC on first use.

-3, 2nd paragraph: Please expand SDES on first use.
-- "specified in CLUE use case [RFC7205]"
should that say "specified in the CLUE use case document [RFC7205]"?
-- "described using MCC."
missing article ("using an MCC."

-3, third paragraph: "If needed by CLUE
  endpoint,"
Missing article.

-4, 2nd paragraph: s/"slide video"/"side video"

-6, first paragraph: s/"made by"/"made up of"  ; or "comprises"

-9, 2nd paragraph: Please don't use 2119 to describe requirements from other documents, unless in a direct quote (in quotation marks.)
2017-01-19
12 Ben Campbell [Ballot Position Update] Position for Ben Campbell has been changed to Yes from Discuss
2017-01-18
12 Joel Jaeggli [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Joel Jaeggli
2017-01-18
12 Alvaro Retana [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Alvaro Retana
2017-01-18
12 Jari Arkko
[Ballot comment]
Points from Vijay's Gen-ART review seem to not yet have been taken into account. They should, while they are editorial, they made sense …
[Ballot comment]
Points from Vijay's Gen-ART review seem to not yet have been taken into account. They should, while they are editorial, they made sense at least to me.
2017-01-18
12 Jari Arkko [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Jari Arkko
2017-01-18
12 Alissa Cooper [Ballot discuss]
Holding a DISCUSS pending the outcome of the discussion stemming from the DE's review. See https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/clue/current/msg05066.html
2017-01-18
12 Alissa Cooper [Ballot Position Update] Position for Alissa Cooper has been changed to Discuss from Yes
2017-01-18
12 Ben Campbell
[Ballot discuss]
I plan to ballot "yes" for this, but there's an issue in section 9 that I think needs to be fixed first:

In …
[Ballot discuss]
I plan to ballot "yes" for this, but there's an issue in section 9 that I think needs to be fixed first:

In the second paragraph, the draft says "CLUE endpoints MUST support RTP/ SAVPF and DTLS-SRTP keying [RFC5764]." But the framework draft goes further by saying that media MUST be secured, and that DTLS-SRTP SHOULD be used unless the media is secured by some other mechanism. I think that readers will expect the mapping spec to be authoritative about that sort of thing. It's likely to be misleading to have it mention the requirement to support RTP/SAVPF and DTLS-SRTP without also mentioning the MUST be secured, SHOULD be used requirements. This can easily be fixed by mentioning the additional requirements and citing the framework.
2017-01-18
12 Ben Campbell
[Ballot comment]
Substantive:

-3: The opening paragraph mentions "Point-to-Point, as well as Media-Mixing
  mixers, Media- Switching mixers, and Selective Forwarding Middleboxs." The section goes …
[Ballot comment]
Substantive:

-3: The opening paragraph mentions "Point-to-Point, as well as Media-Mixing
  mixers, Media- Switching mixers, and Selective Forwarding Middleboxs." The section goes on to discuss the first two, but doesn't mention the last two.

-5, paragraph 4: "When the media provider
  switches the MC it sends within an MCC, it MUST send the captureID
  value for the MC just switched into the MCC."

Does MUST send mean MUST send both in the RTP header and as an RTCP SDES item, as in the previous sentence?

-5, paragraph 5:
It would be helpful to add a sentence or two clarifying the difference between an MCC that carries multiple MCs at the same time, and one that switch between MCs, but only carry one at a time.


Editorial:

- 1, 2nd paragraph: Please expand SSRC on first use.

-3, 2nd paragraph: Please expand SDES on first use.
-- "specified in CLUE use case [RFC7205]"
should that say "specified in the CLUE use case document [RFC7205]"?
-- "described using MCC."
missing article ("using an MCC."

-3, third paragraph: "If needed by CLUE
  endpoint,"
Missing article.

-4, 2nd paragraph: s/"slide video"/"side video"

-6, first paragraph: s/"made by"/"made up of"  ; or "comprises"

-9, 2nd paragraph: Please don't use 2119 to describe requirements from other documents, unless in a direct quote (in quotation marks.)
2017-01-18
12 Ben Campbell [Ballot Position Update] New position, Discuss, has been recorded for Ben Campbell
2017-01-18
12 Deborah Brungard [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Deborah Brungard
2017-01-18
12 Benoît Claise [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Benoit Claise
2017-01-17
12 Terry Manderson [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Terry Manderson
2017-01-17
12 Suresh Krishnan [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Suresh Krishnan
2017-01-17
12 Amanda Baber IANA Review state changed to IANA - Not OK from Version Changed - Review Needed
2017-01-17
12 Alia Atlas [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Alia Atlas
2017-01-17
12 Stephen Farrell
[Ballot comment]

- abstract: expanding CLUE (or avoiding the acronym) in the
abstract would be better (some abstract readers won't have
heard of CLUE before). …
[Ballot comment]

- abstract: expanding CLUE (or avoiding the acronym) in the
abstract would be better (some abstract readers won't have
heard of CLUE before).

- section 9: I think the paragraph about RFC6562 should be
reduced to the first sentence only. The rest, if it were
correct (and I'm not sure), ought be part of an update to
6562. That's not just process-crap - I would expect the
state of the art to change here and when it does then the
right place to deal with that will be in an update to 6562.
(And hey, it's been 5 years already since we did that, so
maybe it'd be timely if someone re-checked the state of the
art here?) This could have been, but is not a DISCUSS
ballot, on the basis that if we do update 6562 then we
could have that formally UPDATE this RFC, but requiring
that we remember to do that seems worse than just leaving
it to a putative 6562bis. (And again, could we find someone
to re-check 6562 and perhaps consider if a BCP on the topic
would be a worthwhile thing?)

- Section 9 says: "In multi-party communication scenarios
using RTP Middleboxes; this middleboxes are trusted to
preserve the sessions' security." That is just wrong. The
middleboxes may or may not be trusted (or even known to
exist) by the parties to the call. What you should be
saying is that those middleboxes are REQUIRED, by this
protocol/spec, to not weaken security. (And this one is not
a DISCUSS because the rest of the para mitigates the
horrible first sentence;-)
2017-01-17
12 Stephen Farrell [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Stephen Farrell
2017-01-17
12 Kathleen Moriarty [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Kathleen Moriarty
2017-01-17
12 Alexey Melnikov [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Alexey Melnikov
2017-01-17
12 Spencer Dawkins [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Spencer Dawkins
2017-01-17
12 Mirja Kühlewind
[Ballot comment]
- I find the following sentence in the abstract rather confusing: „This document describes how the Real Time transport Protocol (RTP) is used …
[Ballot comment]
- I find the following sentence in the abstract rather confusing: „This document describes how the Real Time transport Protocol (RTP) is used in the context of the CLUE protocol.“ I would just start with the second sentence directly and potentially also mention that this doc defines a new RTP Header Extension for the mapping.
- There is still some redundancy in this document that could be removed for more clarity.
2017-01-17
12 Mirja Kühlewind [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Mirja Kühlewind
2017-01-17
12 Alissa Cooper IESG state changed to IESG Evaluation from Waiting for AD Go-Ahead
2017-01-17
12 Alissa Cooper Ballot has been issued
2017-01-17
12 Alissa Cooper [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Alissa Cooper
2017-01-17
12 Alissa Cooper Created "Approve" ballot
2017-01-14
12 Roni Even New version available: draft-ietf-clue-rtp-mapping-12.txt
2017-01-14
12 (System) New version approved
2017-01-14
12 (System) Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: "Roni Even" , "Jonathan Lennox"
2017-01-14
12 Roni Even Uploaded new revision
2017-01-14
11 (System) IANA Review state changed to Version Changed - Review Needed from IANA - Not OK
2017-01-14
11 Roni Even New version available: draft-ietf-clue-rtp-mapping-11.txt
2017-01-14
11 (System) New version approved
2017-01-14
11 (System) Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: clue-chairs@ietf.org, "Jonathan Lennox" , "Roni Even"
2017-01-14
11 Roni Even Uploaded new revision
2017-01-12
10 Tero Kivinen Request for Last Call review by SECDIR Completed: Has Nits. Reviewer: Dan Harkins.
2017-01-12
10 (System) IESG state changed to Waiting for AD Go-Ahead from In Last Call
2017-01-10
10 (System) IANA Review state changed to IANA - Not OK from IANA - Review Needed
2017-01-10
10 Sabrina Tanamal
(Via drafts-lastcall-comment@iana.org): IESG/Authors/WG Chairs:

The IANA Services Operator has completed its review of draft-ietf-clue-rtp-mapping-10.txt. If any part of this review is inaccurate, please let …
(Via drafts-lastcall-comment@iana.org): IESG/Authors/WG Chairs:

The IANA Services Operator has completed its review of draft-ietf-clue-rtp-mapping-10.txt. If any part of this review is inaccurate, please let us know.

The IANA Services Operator understands that, upon approval of this document, there are two actions which we must complete.

First, in the RTP SDES Compact Header Extensions subregistry of the Real-Time Transport Protocol (RTP) Parameters registry located at:

https://www.iana.org/assignments/rtp-parameters/

a single, new header extension will be registered as follows:

Extension URI: urn:ietf:params:rtp-hdrext:sdes:CaptureId
Description: CLUE CaptureId
Contact: roni.even@mail01.huawei.com
Reference: [ RFC-to-be ]

Because this registry requires Expert Review [RFC5226] for registration, we've contacted the IESG-designated expert in a separate ticket to request approval. Expert review should be completed before your document can be approved for publication as an RFC.

Second, in the RTP SDES item types subregistry of the Real-Time Transport Protocol (RTP) Parameters registry located at:

https://www.iana.org/assignments/rtp-parameters/

a single, new item type will be registered as follows:

Value: [ TBD-at-registration ]
Abbrev.: CCID
Name: CLUE CaptureId
Reference: [ RFC-to-be ]

As this registry also requires Expert Review [RFC5226] for registration, we've contacted the IESG-designated expert in a separate ticket to request approval. Expert review should be completed before your document can be approved for publication as an RFC.

The IANA Services Operator understands that these two actions are the only ones required to be completed upon approval of this document.

Note:  The actions requested in this document will not be completed until the document has been approved for publication as an RFC. This message is only to confirm what actions will be performed.

Thank you,

Sabrina Tanamal
IANA Services Specialist
PTI
2017-01-03
10 Jürgen Schönwälder Request for Last Call review by OPSDIR Completed: Has Nits. Reviewer: Jürgen Schönwälder. Sent review to list.
2016-12-29
10 Tero Kivinen Request for Last Call review by SECDIR is assigned to Dan Harkins
2016-12-29
10 Tero Kivinen Request for Last Call review by SECDIR is assigned to Dan Harkins
2016-12-24
10 Gunter Van de Velde Request for Last Call review by OPSDIR is assigned to Jürgen Schönwälder
2016-12-24
10 Gunter Van de Velde Request for Last Call review by OPSDIR is assigned to Jürgen Schönwälder
2016-12-23
10 Vijay Gurbani Request for Last Call review by GENART Completed: Ready with Nits. Reviewer: Vijay Gurbani. Sent review to list.
2016-12-22
10 Jean Mahoney Request for Last Call review by GENART is assigned to Vijay Gurbani
2016-12-22
10 Jean Mahoney Request for Last Call review by GENART is assigned to Vijay Gurbani
2016-12-22
10 Amy Vezza IANA Review state changed to IANA - Review Needed
2016-12-22
10 Amy Vezza
The following Last Call announcement was sent out:

From: The IESG
To: "IETF-Announce"
CC: draft-ietf-clue-rtp-mapping@ietf.org, clue@ietf.org, alissa@cooperw.in, pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu, "Paul Kyzivat" , …
The following Last Call announcement was sent out:

From: The IESG
To: "IETF-Announce"
CC: draft-ietf-clue-rtp-mapping@ietf.org, clue@ietf.org, alissa@cooperw.in, pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu, "Paul Kyzivat" , clue-chairs@ietf.org
Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org
Sender:
Subject: Last Call:  (Mapping RTP streams to CLUE Media Captures) to Proposed Standard


The IESG has received a request from the ControLling mUltiple streams for
tElepresence WG (clue) to consider the following document:
- 'Mapping RTP streams to CLUE Media Captures'
  as Proposed Standard

The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits
final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the
ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2017-01-12. Exceptionally, comments may be
sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the
beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting.

Abstract


  This document describes how the Real Time transport Protocol (RTP) is
  used in the context of the CLUE protocol.  It also describes the
  mechanisms and recommended practice for mapping RTP media streams
  defined in SDP to CLUE Media Captures.




The file can be obtained via
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-clue-rtp-mapping/

IESG discussion can be tracked via
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-clue-rtp-mapping/ballot/


No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D.




2016-12-22
10 Amy Vezza IESG state changed to In Last Call from Last Call Requested
2016-12-22
10 Alissa Cooper Ballot writeup was changed
2016-12-22
10 Alissa Cooper Placed on agenda for telechat - 2017-01-19
2016-12-22
10 Alissa Cooper Last call was requested
2016-12-22
10 Alissa Cooper Ballot approval text was generated
2016-12-22
10 Alissa Cooper Ballot writeup was generated
2016-12-22
10 Alissa Cooper IESG state changed to Last Call Requested from AD Evaluation
2016-12-22
10 Alissa Cooper Last call announcement was changed
2016-12-22
10 Alissa Cooper IESG state changed to AD Evaluation from Publication Requested
2016-12-16
10 Paul Kyzivat
Shepherd writeup for draft-ietf-clue-rtp-mapping-10:

[This is based on the template version dated 24 February 2012.]

(1) What type of RFC is being requested (BCP, …
Shepherd writeup for draft-ietf-clue-rtp-mapping-10:

[This is based on the template version dated 24 February 2012.]

(1) What type of RFC is being requested (BCP, Proposed Standard,
Internet Standard, Informational, Experimental, or Historic)?  Why
is this the proper type of RFC?  Is this type of RFC indicated in the
title page header?

  This document is marked as Standards Track in the title page header,
  and that is appropriate - it is defining required functionality for CLUE.

(2) The IESG approval announcement includes a Document Announcement
Write-Up. Please provide such a Document Announcement Write-Up. Recent
examples can be found in the "Action" announcements for approved
documents. The approval announcement contains the following sections:

Technical Summary

  This document describes how the Real Time transport Protocol (RTP) is
  used in the context of the CLUE protocol.  It also describes the
  mechanisms and recommended practice for mapping RTP media streams
  defined in SDP to CLUE Media Captures.

Working Group Summary

  Very late in the game we received substantial comments on this document
  from an RTP expert that had not been active in the work group. This
  led to some substantial revisions, primarily for alignment with other
  RTP-related documents. The primary effect was to remove a lot of text
  that was thought to be be confusing.

Document Quality

  Are there existing implementations of the protocol?

    A prototype implementation has been built and demonstrated.

  Have a significant number of vendors indicated their plan to
  implement the specification?

    Not yet.

  Are there any reviewers that
  merit special mention as having done a thorough review,
  e.g., one that resulted in important changes or a
  conclusion that the document had no substantive issues?

    Colin Perkins made major comments that resulted in better alignment
    of this document with other work.

  If there was a MIB Doctor, Media Type or other expert review,
  what was its course (briefly)? In the case of a Media Type
  review, on what date was the request posted?

    N/A

Personnel

  Who is the Document Shepherd?

    Paul Kyzivat

  Who is the Responsible Area Director?

    Alissa Cooper

(3) Briefly describe the review of this document that was performed by
the Document Shepherd.  If this version of the document is not ready
for publication, please explain why the document is being forwarded to
the IESG.

  The shepherd has been an active reviewer of this document throughout
  its development, and reviewed it again in its entirety while preparing
  this writeup.

  In the view of this shepherd the document is ready for
  publication?

    YES.

(4) Does the document Shepherd have any concerns about the depth or
breadth of the reviews that have been performed?

  No concerns. The document has been well reviewed.

(5) Do portions of the document need review from a particular or from
broader perspective, e.g., security, operational complexity, AAA, DNS,
DHCP, XML, or internationalization? If so, describe the review that
took place.

  N/A

(6) Describe any specific concerns or issues that the Document Shepherd
has with this document that the Responsible Area Director and/or the
IESG should be aware of? For example, perhaps he or she is uncomfortable
with certain parts of the document, or has concerns whether there really
is a need for it. In any event, if the WG has discussed those issues and
has indicated that it still wishes to advance the document, detail those
concerns here.

  None

(7) Has each author confirmed that any and all appropriate IPR
disclosures required for full conformance with the provisions of BCP 78
and BCP 79 have already been filed. If not, explain why.

  Yes, each author has stated they have no IPR claims on the document.

(8) Has an IPR disclosure been filed that references this document?
If so, summarize any WG discussion and conclusion regarding the IPR
disclosures.

  No IPR has been filed against this document.

(9) How solid is the WG consensus behind this document? Does it
represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others
being silent, or does the WG as a whole understand and agree with it?

  There is strong WG consensus for this document by all those who have
  actively participated in the group.

(10) Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme
discontent? If so, please summarize the areas of conflict in separate
email messages to the Responsible Area Director. (It should be in a
separate email because this questionnaire is publicly available.)

  No.

(11) Identify any ID nits the Document Shepherd has found in this
document. (See https://www.ietf.org/tools/idnits/ and the Internet-Drafts
Checklist). Boilerplate checks are not enough; this check needs to be
thorough.

  There are some references to outdated versions of drafts.
  Also, some unused references that arose due to text deletions
  in recent versions. These should be updated at time of publication.

(12) Describe how the document meets any required formal review
criteria, such as the MIB Doctor, media type, and URI type reviews.

  N/A

(13) Have all references within this document been identified as
either normative or informative?

  Yes.

(14) Are there normative references to documents that are not ready for
advancement or are otherwise in an unclear state? If such normative
references exist, what is the plan for their completion?

  There are normative references to several other CLUE drafts.
  The intent is that these will all progress together.

  There is also a normative reference to
  draft-ietf-mmusic-sdp-bundle-negotiation-34. That draft is
  itself near to completion. Waiting on it is acceptable.

(15) Are there downward normative references references (see RFC 3967)?
If so, list these downward references to support the Area Director in
the Last Call procedure.

  There are no downrefs.

(16) Will publication of this document change the status of any
existing RFCs? Are those RFCs listed on the title page header, listed
in the abstract, and discussed in the introduction? If the RFCs are not
listed in the Abstract and Introduction, explain why, and point to the
part of the document where the relationship of this document to the
other RFCs is discussed. If this information is not in the document,
explain why the WG considers it unnecessary.

  This document doesn't change the status of any other document.

(17) Describe the Document Shepherd's review of the IANA considerations
section, especially with regard to its consistency with the body of the
document. Confirm that all protocol extensions that the document makes
are associated with the appropriate reservations in IANA registries.
Confirm that any referenced IANA registries have been clearly
identified. Confirm that newly created IANA registries include a
detailed specification of the initial contents for the registry, that
allocations procedures for future registrations are defined, and a
reasonable name for the new registry has been suggested (see RFC 5226).

  The IANA considerations section is in good order.

(18) List any new IANA registries that require Expert Review for future
allocations. Provide any public guidance that the IESG would find
useful in selecting the IANA Experts for these new registries.

  N/A - no new registries are defined.

(19) Describe reviews and automated checks performed by the Document
Shepherd to validate sections of the document written in a formal
language, such as XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, etc.

  None.

2016-12-16
10 Paul Kyzivat IETF WG state changed to Submitted to IESG for Publication from WG Consensus: Waiting for Write-Up
2016-12-16
10 Paul Kyzivat IESG state changed to Publication Requested from AD is watching
2016-12-16
10 Paul Kyzivat
Shepherd writeup for draft-ietf-clue-rtp-mapping-10:

[This is based on the template version dated 24 February 2012.]

(1) What type of RFC is being requested (BCP, …
Shepherd writeup for draft-ietf-clue-rtp-mapping-10:

[This is based on the template version dated 24 February 2012.]

(1) What type of RFC is being requested (BCP, Proposed Standard,
Internet Standard, Informational, Experimental, or Historic)?  Why
is this the proper type of RFC?  Is this type of RFC indicated in the
title page header?

  This document is marked as Standards Track in the title page header,
  and that is appropriate - it is defining required functionality for CLUE.

(2) The IESG approval announcement includes a Document Announcement
Write-Up. Please provide such a Document Announcement Write-Up. Recent
examples can be found in the "Action" announcements for approved
documents. The approval announcement contains the following sections:

Technical Summary

  This document describes how the Real Time transport Protocol (RTP) is
  used in the context of the CLUE protocol.  It also describes the
  mechanisms and recommended practice for mapping RTP media streams
  defined in SDP to CLUE Media Captures.

Working Group Summary

  Very late in the game we received substantial comments on this document
  from an RTP expert that had not been active in the work group. This
  led to some substantial revisions, primarily for alignment with other
  RTP-related documents. The primary effect was to remove a lot of text
  that was thought to be be confusing.

Document Quality

  Are there existing implementations of the protocol?

    A prototype implementation has been built and demonstrated.

  Have a significant number of vendors indicated their plan to
  implement the specification?

    Not yet.

  Are there any reviewers that
  merit special mention as having done a thorough review,
  e.g., one that resulted in important changes or a
  conclusion that the document had no substantive issues?

    Colin Perkins made major comments that resulted in better alignment
    of this document with other work.

  If there was a MIB Doctor, Media Type or other expert review,
  what was its course (briefly)? In the case of a Media Type
  review, on what date was the request posted?

    N/A

Personnel

  Who is the Document Shepherd?

    Paul Kyzivat

  Who is the Responsible Area Director?

    Alissa Cooper

(3) Briefly describe the review of this document that was performed by
the Document Shepherd.  If this version of the document is not ready
for publication, please explain why the document is being forwarded to
the IESG.

  The shepherd has been an active reviewer of this document throughout
  its development, and reviewed it again in its entirety while preparing
  this writeup.

  In the view of this shepherd the document is ready for
  publication?

    YES.

(4) Does the document Shepherd have any concerns about the depth or
breadth of the reviews that have been performed?

  No concerns. The document has been well reviewed.

(5) Do portions of the document need review from a particular or from
broader perspective, e.g., security, operational complexity, AAA, DNS,
DHCP, XML, or internationalization? If so, describe the review that
took place.

  N/A

(6) Describe any specific concerns or issues that the Document Shepherd
has with this document that the Responsible Area Director and/or the
IESG should be aware of? For example, perhaps he or she is uncomfortable
with certain parts of the document, or has concerns whether there really
is a need for it. In any event, if the WG has discussed those issues and
has indicated that it still wishes to advance the document, detail those
concerns here.

  None

(7) Has each author confirmed that any and all appropriate IPR
disclosures required for full conformance with the provisions of BCP 78
and BCP 79 have already been filed. If not, explain why.

  Yes, each author has stated they have no IPR claims on the document.

(8) Has an IPR disclosure been filed that references this document?
If so, summarize any WG discussion and conclusion regarding the IPR
disclosures.

  No IPR has been filed against this document.

(9) How solid is the WG consensus behind this document? Does it
represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others
being silent, or does the WG as a whole understand and agree with it?

  There is strong WG consensus for this document by all those who have
  actively participated in the group.

(10) Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme
discontent? If so, please summarize the areas of conflict in separate
email messages to the Responsible Area Director. (It should be in a
separate email because this questionnaire is publicly available.)

  No.

(11) Identify any ID nits the Document Shepherd has found in this
document. (See https://www.ietf.org/tools/idnits/ and the Internet-Drafts
Checklist). Boilerplate checks are not enough; this check needs to be
thorough.

  There are some references to outdated versions of drafts.
  Also, some unused references that arose due to text deletions
  in recent versions. These should be updated at time of publication.

(12) Describe how the document meets any required formal review
criteria, such as the MIB Doctor, media type, and URI type reviews.

  N/A

(13) Have all references within this document been identified as
either normative or informative?

  Yes.

(14) Are there normative references to documents that are not ready for
advancement or are otherwise in an unclear state? If such normative
references exist, what is the plan for their completion?

  There are normative references to several other CLUE drafts.
  The intent is that these will all progress together.

  There is also a normative reference to
  draft-ietf-mmusic-sdp-bundle-negotiation-34. That draft is
  itself near to completion. Waiting on it is acceptable.

(15) Are there downward normative references references (see RFC 3967)?
If so, list these downward references to support the Area Director in
the Last Call procedure.

  There are no downrefs.

(16) Will publication of this document change the status of any
existing RFCs? Are those RFCs listed on the title page header, listed
in the abstract, and discussed in the introduction? If the RFCs are not
listed in the Abstract and Introduction, explain why, and point to the
part of the document where the relationship of this document to the
other RFCs is discussed. If this information is not in the document,
explain why the WG considers it unnecessary.

  This document doesn't change the status of any other document.

(17) Describe the Document Shepherd's review of the IANA considerations
section, especially with regard to its consistency with the body of the
document. Confirm that all protocol extensions that the document makes
are associated with the appropriate reservations in IANA registries.
Confirm that any referenced IANA registries have been clearly
identified. Confirm that newly created IANA registries include a
detailed specification of the initial contents for the registry, that
allocations procedures for future registrations are defined, and a
reasonable name for the new registry has been suggested (see RFC 5226).

  The IANA considerations section is in good order.

(18) List any new IANA registries that require Expert Review for future
allocations. Provide any public guidance that the IESG would find
useful in selecting the IANA Experts for these new registries.

  N/A - no new registries are defined.

(19) Describe reviews and automated checks performed by the Document
Shepherd to validate sections of the document written in a formal
language, such as XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, etc.

  None.

2016-11-13
10 Roni Even New version available: draft-ietf-clue-rtp-mapping-10.txt
2016-11-13
10 (System) New version approved
2016-11-13
10 (System) Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: "Jonathan Lennox" , "Roni Even"
2016-11-13
10 Roni Even Uploaded new revision
2016-10-24
09 Roni Even New version available: draft-ietf-clue-rtp-mapping-09.txt
2016-10-24
09 (System) New version approved
2016-10-24
08 (System) Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: "Jonathan Lennox" , "Roni Even"
2016-10-24
08 Roni Even Uploaded new revision
2016-09-15
08 Alissa Cooper IESG state changed to AD is watching from AD Evaluation::AD Followup
2016-08-29
08 Alissa Cooper IESG state changed to AD Evaluation::AD Followup from AD Evaluation
2016-08-27
08 Roni Even New version available: draft-ietf-clue-rtp-mapping-08.txt
2016-08-26
07 Alissa Cooper IESG state changed to AD Evaluation from Publication Requested
2016-08-24
07 Paul Kyzivat Tag Revised I-D Needed - Issue raised by WGLC set.
2016-08-24
07 Paul Kyzivat IETF WG state changed to WG Consensus: Waiting for Write-Up from Submitted to IESG for Publication
2016-08-24
07 Paul Kyzivat
Shepherd writeup for draft-ietf-clue-rtp-mapping-07:

[This is based on the template version dated 24 February 2012.]

(1) What type of RFC is being requested (BCP, …
Shepherd writeup for draft-ietf-clue-rtp-mapping-07:

[This is based on the template version dated 24 February 2012.]

(1) What type of RFC is being requested (BCP, Proposed Standard,
Internet Standard, Informational, Experimental, or Historic)?  Why
is this the proper type of RFC?  Is this type of RFC indicated in the
title page header?

  This document is marked as Standards Track in the title page header,
  and that is appropriate - it is defining required functionality for CLUE.

(2) The IESG approval announcement includes a Document Announcement
Write-Up. Please provide such a Document Announcement Write-Up. Recent
examples can be found in the "Action" announcements for approved
documents. The approval announcement contains the following sections:

Technical Summary

  This document describes how the Real Time transport Protocol (RTP) is
  used in the context of the CLUE protocol.  It also describes the
  mechanisms and recommended practice for mapping RTP media streams
  defined in SDP to CLUE Media Captures.

Working Group Summary

  Nothing of particular note occurred during the development of
  this document.

Document Quality

  Are there existing implementations of the protocol?

    A prototype implementation has been built and demonstrated.

  Have a significant number of vendors indicated their plan to
  implement the specification?

    Not yet.

  Are there any reviewers that
  merit special mention as having done a thorough review,
  e.g., one that resulted in important changes or a
  conclusion that the document had no substantive issues?

    None that stand out.

  If there was a MIB Doctor, Media Type or other expert review,
  what was its course (briefly)? In the case of a Media Type
  review, on what date was the request posted?

    N/A

Personnel

  Who is the Document Shepherd?

    Paul Kyzivat

  Who is the Responsible Area Director?

    Alissa Cooper

(3) Briefly describe the review of this document that was performed by
the Document Shepherd.  If this version of the document is not ready
for publication, please explain why the document is being forwarded to
the IESG.

  The shepherd has been an active reviewer of this document throughout
  its development, and reviewed it again in its entirety while preparing
  this writeup.

  In the view of this shepherd the document is ready for
  publication.

(4) Does the document Shepherd have any concerns about the depth or
breadth of the reviews that have been performed?

  No concerns. The document has been well reviewed.

(5) Do portions of the document need review from a particular or from
broader perspective, e.g., security, operational complexity, AAA, DNS,
DHCP, XML, or internationalization? If so, describe the review that
took place.

  N/A

(6) Describe any specific concerns or issues that the Document Shepherd
has with this document that the Responsible Area Director and/or the
IESG should be aware of? For example, perhaps he or she is uncomfortable
with certain parts of the document, or has concerns whether there really
is a need for it. In any event, if the WG has discussed those issues and
has indicated that it still wishes to advance the document, detail those
concerns here.

  None

(7) Has each author confirmed that any and all appropriate IPR
disclosures required for full conformance with the provisions of BCP 78
and BCP 79 have already been filed. If not, explain why.

  Yes, each author has stated they have no IPR claims on the document.

(8) Has an IPR disclosure been filed that references this document?
If so, summarize any WG discussion and conclusion regarding the IPR
disclosures.

  No IPR has been filed against this document.

(9) How solid is the WG consensus behind this document? Does it
represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others
being silent, or does the WG as a whole understand and agree with it?

  There is strong WG consensus for this document by all those who have
  actively participated in the group.

(10) Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme
discontent? If so, please summarise the areas of conflict in separate
email messages to the Responsible Area Director. (It should be in a
separate email because this questionnaire is publicly available.)

  No.

(11) Identify any ID nits the Document Shepherd has found in this
document. (See https://www.ietf.org/tools/idnits/ and the Internet-Drafts
Checklist). Boilerplate checks are not enough; this check needs to be
thorough.

  There are some references to outdated versions of drafts.
  They should be updated at time of publication.

(12) Describe how the document meets any required formal review
criteria, such as the MIB Doctor, media type, and URI type reviews.

  N/A

(13) Have all references within this document been identified as
either normative or informative?

  Yes.

(14) Are there normative references to documents that are not ready for
advancement or are otherwise in an unclear state? If such normative
references exist, what is the plan for their completion?

  There are normative references to several other CLUE drafts.
  The intent is that these will all progress together.

  There is also a normative reference to
  draft-ietf-mmusic-sdp-bundle-negotiation-24. That draft is
  itself near to completion. Waiting on it is acceptable.

(15) Are there downward normative references references (see RFC 3967)?
If so, list these downward references to support the Area Director in
the Last Call procedure.

  There are no downrefs.

(16) Will publication of this document change the status of any
existing RFCs? Are those RFCs listed on the title page header, listed
in the abstract, and discussed in the introduction? If the RFCs are not
listed in the Abstract and Introduction, explain why, and point to the
part of the document where the relationship of this document to the
other RFCs is discussed. If this information is not in the document,
explain why the WG considers it unnecessary.

  This document doesn't change the status of any other document.

(17) Describe the Document Shepherd's review of the IANA considerations
section, especially with regard to its consistency with the body of the
document. Confirm that all protocol extensions that the document makes
are associated with the appropriate reservations in IANA registries.
Confirm that any referenced IANA registries have been clearly
identified. Confirm that newly created IANA registries include a
detailed specification of the initial contents for the registry, that
allocations procedures for future registrations are defined, and a
reasonable name for the new registry has been suggested (see RFC 5226).

  The IANA considerations section is in good order.

(18) List any new IANA registries that require Expert Review for future
allocations. Provide any public guidance that the IESG would find
useful in selecting the IANA Experts for these new registries.

  N/A - no new registries are defined.

(19) Describe reviews and automated checks performed by the Document
Shepherd to validate sections of the document written in a formal
language, such as XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, etc.

  None.

2016-08-24
07 Paul Kyzivat Responsible AD changed to Alissa Cooper
2016-08-24
07 Paul Kyzivat IETF WG state changed to Submitted to IESG for Publication from WG Consensus: Waiting for Write-Up
2016-08-24
07 Paul Kyzivat IESG state changed to Publication Requested
2016-08-24
07 Paul Kyzivat IESG process started in state Publication Requested
2016-08-24
07 Paul Kyzivat Tag Revised I-D Needed - Issue raised by WGLC cleared.
2016-08-24
07 Paul Kyzivat IETF WG state changed to WG Consensus: Waiting for Write-Up from Waiting for WG Chair Go-Ahead
2016-08-24
07 Paul Kyzivat Changed document writeup
2016-08-08
07 Roni Even Notification list changed to "Paul Kyzivat" <pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu>
2016-08-08
07 Roni Even Document shepherd changed to Paul Kyzivat
2016-06-06
07 Daniel Burnett Just need quick rev from authors to address Paul Kyzivat's comments.
2016-06-06
07 Daniel Burnett Tag Revised I-D Needed - Issue raised by WGLC set.
2016-06-06
07 Daniel Burnett IETF WG state changed to Waiting for WG Chair Go-Ahead from In WG Last Call
2016-05-21
07 Daniel Burnett Restarting WGLC for further review.
2016-05-14
07 Roni Even New version available: draft-ietf-clue-rtp-mapping-07.txt
2016-03-08
06 Daniel Burnett WGLC to end 18 March 2016.
2016-03-08
06 Daniel Burnett IETF WG state changed to In WG Last Call from WG Document
2016-01-17
06 Roni Even New version available: draft-ietf-clue-rtp-mapping-06.txt
2015-10-18
05 Roni Even New version available: draft-ietf-clue-rtp-mapping-05.txt
2015-10-14
04 (System) Notify list changed from "Daniel C. Burnett"  to (None)
2015-04-10
04 Roni Even Notification list changed to "Daniel C. Burnett" <danielcburnett@gmail.com>
2015-04-10
04 Roni Even Document shepherd changed to Daniel C. Burnett
2015-03-08
04 Roni Even New version available: draft-ietf-clue-rtp-mapping-04.txt
2014-10-18
03 Roni Even New version available: draft-ietf-clue-rtp-mapping-03.txt
2014-07-22
02 Roni Even New version available: draft-ietf-clue-rtp-mapping-02.txt
2013-10-22
01 Mary Barnes Intended Status changed to Proposed Standard from None
2013-10-21
01 Roni Even New version available: draft-ietf-clue-rtp-mapping-01.txt
2013-02-17
00 Roni Even New version available: draft-ietf-clue-rtp-mapping-00.txt