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Increasing the Number of Area Directors in an IETF Area
draft-dawkins-iesg-one-or-more-05

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Date Rev. By Action
2015-03-06
05 (System) RFC Editor state changed to AUTH48-DONE from AUTH48
2015-02-18
05 (System) RFC Editor state changed to AUTH48 from RFC-EDITOR
2015-02-12
05 (System) RFC Editor state changed to RFC-EDITOR from EDIT
2015-01-15
05 Amy Vezza IESG state changed to RFC Ed Queue from Approved-announcement sent
2015-01-14
05 (System) RFC Editor state changed to EDIT
2015-01-14
05 (System) Announcement was received by RFC Editor
2015-01-14
05 (System) IANA Action state changed to No IC
2015-01-14
05 Amy Vezza IESG state changed to Approved-announcement sent from Approved-announcement to be sent
2015-01-14
05 Amy Vezza IESG has approved the document
2015-01-14
05 Amy Vezza Closed "Approve" ballot
2015-01-14
05 Amy Vezza Ballot approval text was generated
2015-01-14
05 Amy Vezza Ballot writeup was changed
2015-01-14
05 Jari Arkko Editorial updates and new information from the IESG review and last call was incorporated. Draft is now approved.
2015-01-14
05 Jari Arkko IESG state changed to Approved-announcement to be sent from Approved-announcement to be sent::Point Raised - writeup needed
2015-01-13
05 Spencer Dawkins IANA Review state changed to Version Changed - Review Needed from IANA OK - No Actions Needed
2015-01-13
05 Spencer Dawkins New version available: draft-dawkins-iesg-one-or-more-05.txt
2015-01-08
04 Cindy Morgan IESG state changed to Approved-announcement to be sent::Point Raised - writeup needed from IESG Evaluation
2015-01-08
04 Adrian Farrel
[Ballot comment]
I reviewed this and provided feedback during IETF last call (which is, IMHO, correct behaviour for IESG discussion of process RFCs). All of …
[Ballot comment]
I reviewed this and provided feedback during IETF last call (which is, IMHO, correct behaviour for IESG discussion of process RFCs). All of my comments have been accommodated.
2015-01-08
04 Adrian Farrel [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Adrian Farrel
2015-01-08
04 Benoît Claise [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Benoit Claise
2015-01-07
04 Ted Lemon [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Ted Lemon
2015-01-07
04 Cindy Morgan Changed consensus to Yes from Unknown
2015-01-07
04 Richard Barnes
[Ballot comment]
This draft is unnecessary process-wonkery.  The cited RFCs provide at best an oblique suggestion, rather than clearly normative rules.  Certainly nothing as clear …
[Ballot comment]
This draft is unnecessary process-wonkery.  The cited RFCs provide at best an oblique suggestion, rather than clearly normative rules.  Certainly nothing as clear as the provision in RFC 3710 that "the IESG can ... change the number of ADs assigned to an area".

If we need an RFC for this, we also need an RFC to fix the assertion in RFC 2026 that "RFCs can be obtained from a number of Internet hosts using ... gopher", since AFAICT the RFC editor has dropped support for that protocol.
2015-01-07
04 Richard Barnes [Ballot Position Update] New position, Abstain, has been recorded for Richard Barnes
2015-01-07
04 Christer Holmberg Request for Last Call review by GENART Completed: Ready. Reviewer: Christer Holmberg.
2015-01-07
04 Alia Atlas [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Alia Atlas
2015-01-07
04 Martin Stiemerling [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Martin Stiemerling
2015-01-06
04 Joel Jaeggli [Ballot comment]
consensus status should be set to yes.
2015-01-06
04 Joel Jaeggli [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Joel Jaeggli
2015-01-06
04 Pete Resnick [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Pete Resnick
2015-01-06
04 Alissa Cooper [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Alissa Cooper
2015-01-06
04 Kathleen Moriarty
[Ballot comment]
Thanks for your work on this draft.

I have some comments inline to consider:

I'm wondering if the word "significantly" can be dropped …
[Ballot comment]
Thanks for your work on this draft.

I have some comments inline to consider:

I'm wondering if the word "significantly" can be dropped in the following sentence of the introduction as I didn't think the intent was to increase overall size of the IESG.

  In particular, this change is not intended
  to increase the size of the IESG significantly.

Just a nit as I was having trouble reading this sentence (first sentence of the last paragraph of section 2) - remove first instance of 'that' and would recommend changing "is" to "remains", change from:
  Note that the requirement in RFC 3777 ([RFC3777], BCP 10) that the
  Nominating Committee review (approximately) half the positions for
  the IESG each year is unchanged.
To:
  Note the requirement in RFC 3777 ([RFC3777], BCP 10) that the
  Nominating Committee review (approximately) half the positions for
  the IESG each year remains unchanged.
2015-01-06
04 Kathleen Moriarty [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Kathleen Moriarty
2015-01-06
04 Brian Haberman [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Brian Haberman
2015-01-06
04 Stephen Farrell
[Ballot comment]

A pure nit, that can be entirely ignored:

- is "the IESG continues to be responsible for
specifying the positions that Nomcom would …
[Ballot comment]

A pure nit, that can be entirely ignored:

- is "the IESG continues to be responsible for
specifying the positions that Nomcom would fill each
year" quite correct? I know we discussed before that
the IESG's job descriptions aren't quite
requirements-to-be-met but rather our idea of what's
needed, and that it's up to nomcom to decide if they
agree or not. Maybe it'd be better to say the IESG need
to tell nomcom what they think is needed each year and
avoid any imperatives (in this case "specifying").
2015-01-06
04 Stephen Farrell [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Stephen Farrell
2015-01-06
04 Barry Leiba [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Barry Leiba
2015-01-06
04 Spencer Dawkins [Ballot Position Update] New position, Recuse, has been recorded for Spencer Dawkins
2015-01-06
04 Jari Arkko IESG state changed to IESG Evaluation from Waiting for Writeup
2015-01-06
04 Jari Arkko Ballot has been issued
2015-01-06
04 Jari Arkko [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Jari Arkko
2015-01-06
04 Jari Arkko Created "Approve" ballot
2015-01-06
04 Jari Arkko Ballot writeup was changed
2015-01-06
04 (System) IESG state changed to Waiting for Writeup from In Last Call
2014-12-29
04 Jean Mahoney Request for Last Call review by GENART is assigned to Christer Holmberg
2014-12-29
04 Jean Mahoney Request for Last Call review by GENART is assigned to Christer Holmberg
2014-12-28
04 Gunter Van de Velde Request for Last Call review by OPSDIR Completed: Has Nits. Reviewer: Susan Hares.
2014-12-21
04 Alexey Melnikov
1. Summary

The document shepherd is Alexey Melnikov.  The Responsible Area Director is Jari Arkko.

This document removes a limit on the number of Area …
1. Summary

The document shepherd is Alexey Melnikov.  The Responsible Area Director is Jari Arkko.

This document removes a limit on the number of Area Directors who
manage an Area in the definition of "IETF Area".  This document
updates RFC 2026 (BCP 9) and RFC 2418 (BCP 25).

As the document updates existing BCPs, it is suitable that it is also a BCP.


2. Review and Consensus

This document was reviewed by several current and former IESG members and generally
has support from the community.

The document had enough reviews.

One comment raised suggested that increasing the number of ADs beyond 2 should
not make IESG too big to become less effective in its main job. This comment
was addressed.

3. Intellectual Property

No IPR disclosures have been submitted and authors have indicated they are not aware
of any other IPR issues.

4. Other Points

The document (correctly) has no IANA considerations.
2014-12-15
04 Shaun Cooley Request for Last Call review by SECDIR Completed: Ready. Reviewer: Shaun Cooley.
2014-12-15
04 Gunter Van de Velde Request for Last Call review by OPSDIR is assigned to Susan Hares
2014-12-15
04 Gunter Van de Velde Request for Last Call review by OPSDIR is assigned to Susan Hares
2014-12-12
04 Christer Holmberg Request for Last Call review by GENART Completed: Ready. Reviewer: Christer Holmberg.
2014-12-11
04 Jean Mahoney Request for Last Call review by GENART is assigned to Christer Holmberg
2014-12-11
04 Jean Mahoney Request for Last Call review by GENART is assigned to Christer Holmberg
2014-12-11
04 (System) IANA Review state changed to IANA OK - No Actions Needed from IANA - Review Needed
2014-12-11
04 Amanda Baber
IESG/Authors/WG Chairs:

IANA has reviewed draft-dawkins-iesg-one-or-more-04, which is currently in Last Call, and has the following comments:

We understand that this document doesn't require …
IESG/Authors/WG Chairs:

IANA has reviewed draft-dawkins-iesg-one-or-more-04, which is currently in Last Call, and has the following comments:

We understand that this document doesn't require any IANA actions.

While it is helpful for the IANA Considerations section of the document to remain in place upon publication, if the authors prefer to remove it, IANA doesn't object.

If this assessment is not accurate, please respond as soon as possible.
2014-12-11
04 Tero Kivinen Request for Last Call review by SECDIR is assigned to Shaun Cooley
2014-12-11
04 Tero Kivinen Request for Last Call review by SECDIR is assigned to Shaun Cooley
2014-12-08
04 Cindy Morgan IANA Review state changed to IANA - Review Needed
2014-12-08
04 Cindy Morgan
The following Last Call announcement was sent out:

From: The IESG
To: IETF-Announce
Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org
Sender:
Subject: Last Call:  (Increasing the Number of Area Directors …
The following Last Call announcement was sent out:

From: The IESG
To: IETF-Announce
Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org
Sender:
Subject: Last Call:  (Increasing the Number of Area Directors in an IETF Area) to Best Current Practice


The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to consider
the following document:
- 'Increasing the Number of Area Directors in an IETF Area'
  as Best Current Practice

The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits
final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the
ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2015-01-05. Exceptionally, comments may be
sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the
beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting.

Abstract


  This document removes a limit on the number of Area Directors who
  manage an Area in the definition of "IETF Area".  This document
  updates RFC 2026 (BCP 9) and RFC 2418 (BCP 25).




The file can be obtained via
http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-dawkins-iesg-one-or-more/

IESG discussion can be tracked via
http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-dawkins-iesg-one-or-more/ballot/


No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D.


2014-12-08
04 Cindy Morgan IESG state changed to In Last Call from Last Call Requested
2014-12-08
04 Jari Arkko Telechat date has been changed to 2015-01-08 from 2015-01-22
2014-12-08
04 Jari Arkko Last call was requested
2014-12-08
04 Jari Arkko Ballot approval text was generated
2014-12-08
04 Jari Arkko Ballot writeup was generated
2014-12-08
04 Jari Arkko IESG state changed to Last Call Requested from AD Evaluation::AD Followup
2014-12-08
04 Jari Arkko Last call announcement was generated
2014-12-08
04 Jari Arkko Last call announcement was generated
2014-12-08
04 Jari Arkko Placed on agenda for telechat - 2015-01-22
2014-12-08
04 Jari Arkko
This document says exactly the things it ought to, and I believe this change is needed to increase the flexibility that IESG needs to organise …
This document says exactly the things it ought to, and I believe this change is needed to increase the flexibility that IESG needs to organise its work. The document also seems inline with discussions held on ietf@ietf.org about its content.
2014-12-08
04 Jari Arkko IESG state changed to AD Evaluation::AD Followup from AD Evaluation
2014-12-08
04 Jari Arkko IESG state changed to AD Evaluation from Publication Requested
2014-11-12
04 Spencer Dawkins New version available: draft-dawkins-iesg-one-or-more-04.txt
2014-11-12
03 Spencer Dawkins New version available: draft-dawkins-iesg-one-or-more-03.txt
2014-11-11
02 Spencer Dawkins New version available: draft-dawkins-iesg-one-or-more-02.txt
2014-11-11
01 Jari Arkko Assigned to General Area
2014-11-11
01 Jari Arkko IESG process started in state Publication Requested
2014-11-11
01 Jari Arkko Notification list changed to "Alexey Melnikov" <alexey.melnikov@isode.com>
2014-11-11
01 Jari Arkko Document shepherd changed to Alexey Melnikov
2014-11-11
01 Jari Arkko Intended Status changed to Best Current Practice from None
2014-11-11
01 Jari Arkko Stream changed to IETF from None
2014-11-11
01 Jari Arkko Shepherding AD changed to Jari Arkko
2014-11-10
01 Spencer Dawkins New version available: draft-dawkins-iesg-one-or-more-01.txt
2014-10-24
00 Spencer Dawkins New version available: draft-dawkins-iesg-one-or-more-00.txt