Global Routing Operations
charter-ietf-grow-03-01
Yes
(Alvaro Retana)
(Deborah Brungard)
(Robert Wilton)
No Objection
Erik Kline
Éric Vyncke
(Alissa Cooper)
No Record
Deb Cooley
Francesca Palombini
Gunter Van de Velde
Jim Guichard
John Scudder
Mahesh Jethanandani
Orie Steele
Paul Wouters
Zaheduzzaman Sarker
Summary: Has enough positions to pass.
Ballot question: "Is this charter ready for external review? Is this charter ready for approval without external review?"
Warren Kumari
Yes
Comment
(2021-01-28)
Not sent
Apologies for the (likely) updates, formatting is hard...
Erik Kline
No Objection
Murray Kucherawy
No Objection
Comment
(2021-01-28)
Sent
Any milestones to suggest regarding the non-"stewardship" deliverables?
Roman Danyliw
No Objection
Comment
(2021-02-01)
Not sent
Are there milestones related to this WG?
Éric Vyncke
No Objection
Deb Cooley
No Record
Francesca Palombini
No Record
Gunter Van de Velde
No Record
Jim Guichard
No Record
John Scudder
No Record
Mahesh Jethanandani
No Record
Orie Steele
No Record
Paul Wouters
No Record
Zaheduzzaman Sarker
No Record
Alvaro Retana Former IESG member
Yes
Yes
()
Not sent
Deborah Brungard Former IESG member
Yes
Yes
()
Not sent
Robert Wilton Former IESG member
Yes
Yes
()
Not sent
Alissa Cooper Former IESG member
No Objection
No Objection
()
Not sent
Barry Leiba Former IESG member
No Objection
No Objection
(2021-01-28 for -03-00)
Sent
Two editorial things: GROW will also advise various working groups, mainly IDR and SIDROPS, with respect to whether it is addressing the relevant operational and routing security requirements of Internet-connected networks, and where appropriate, suggest course corrections. The antecedent to "it" appears to be "GROW", but I think it's supposed to refer to those various working groups. Maybe "it" should be "they"? (Also, super-nit, there should be an additional comma before "where appropriate".) And there appears to be some bad punctuation problems in the "goals" paragraph -- missing periods, at least.
Benjamin Kaduk Former IESG member
No Objection
No Objection
(2021-02-03)
Sent
The purpose of GROW is to consider the operational problems associated
with the Internet Protocol (IP) global routing systems, including but
not limited to default-free zone routing table growth, effects of the
interactions between interior and exterior routing protocols, the effect
of address allocation policies, or practices on the global routing
system. [...]
I'm not sure what the last bit is trying to say. What "practices" are it that might
have an effect on the global routing system? Is "on the global routing system" supposed
to apply to the entire list or just the last item?
Also, nit: "including but not limited to" should introduce a list that ends with "and"
(currently "or" is used).
Where appropriate, GROW documents the operational aspects of
What or who determines when it is "appropriate"?
SIDR operations related work will occur in
SIDROPS
nit: end the sentence with a full stop, please.
GROW will also advise various working groups, mainly IDR and SIDROPS,
with respect to whether they are addressing the relevant operational and
routing security requirements of Internet-connected networks, and, where
appropriate, suggest course corrections.
Martin D's point about one-directional advice feels poignant; a different phrasing
than "course corrections" might help, like "areas where improvement would have
significant impact". (Also, same comment about "where appropriate" as above.)
Provide documentation to assist in preventing malpractice in the global routing
system.
Do you have examples in mind of what might be documented that is not a best practice
or an operational aspect (the previous two items)?
The proposed milestones mention "evolving documents"; is there a reference where
those are discussed?
Martin Duke Former IESG member
No Objection
No Objection
(2021-02-03)
Sent
I support Magnus's BLOCK. This charter appears to envision one-way communication from GROW to other WGs on the work they need to do. Is there no output of this WG that deserves some consultation with the routing area?
Magnus Westerlund Former IESG member
(was Block)
No Record
No Record
(2021-03-09)
Sent for earlier
Removing my block as I step down. I assume that the responsible AD will update the charter prior to external review.