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Date Rev. By Action
2024-03-20
02 Cindy Morgan Responsible AD changed to Roman Danyliw from Lars Eggert
2021-12-17
02 Cindy Morgan New version available: charter-ietf-gendispatch-02.txt
2021-12-17
01-02 Cindy Morgan State changed to Approved from External Review (Message to Community, Selected by Secretariat)
2021-12-17
01-02 Cindy Morgan IESG has approved the charter
2021-12-17
01-02 Cindy Morgan Closed "Approve" ballot
2021-12-17
01-02 Cindy Morgan WG action text was changed
2021-12-17
01-02 Cindy Morgan WG action text was changed
2021-12-16
01-02 Robert Wilton [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Robert Wilton
2021-12-16
01-02 Lars Eggert New version available: charter-ietf-gendispatch-01-02.txt
2021-12-16
01-01 Martin Vigoureux [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Martin Vigoureux
2021-12-15
01-01 Benjamin Kaduk [Ballot comment]
It would be good to incorporate the suggestion from https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/gendispatch/hhZx04WoaH_opA6U-e2y37dwYWo/
2021-12-15
01-01 Benjamin Kaduk [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Benjamin Kaduk
2021-12-15
01-01 John Scudder [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for John Scudder
2021-12-15
01-01 Roman Danyliw [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Roman Danyliw
2021-12-14
01-01 Alvaro Retana [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Alvaro Retana
2021-12-13
01-01 Lars Eggert New version available: charter-ietf-gendispatch-01-01.txt
2021-12-08
01-00 Erik Kline [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Erik Kline
2021-12-06
01-00 Martin Duke [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Martin Duke
2021-12-03
01-00 Murray Kucherawy [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Murray Kucherawy
2021-12-03
01-00 Cindy Morgan Telechat date has been changed to 2021-12-16 from 2021-12-02
2021-12-03
01-00 Cindy Morgan WG new work message text was changed
2021-12-03
01-00 Cindy Morgan WG review text was changed
2021-12-03
01-00 Cindy Morgan WG review text was changed
2021-12-03
01-00 Cindy Morgan WG review text was changed
2021-12-03
01-00 Cindy Morgan Created "Approve" ballot
2021-12-03
01-00 Cindy Morgan Closed "Ready for external review" ballot
2021-12-03
01-00 Cindy Morgan State changed to External Review (Message to Community, Selected by Secretariat) from Start Chartering/Rechartering (Internal Steering Group/IAB Review)
2021-12-02
01-00 Roman Danyliw [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Roman Danyliw
2021-12-02
01-00 Martin Vigoureux [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Martin Vigoureux
2021-12-02
01-00 Zaheduzzaman Sarker [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Zaheduzzaman Sarker
2021-12-02
01-00 Francesca Palombini
[Ballot comment]
> Full discussions of proposed work should take place where GENDISPATCH directs
> the work, whether that is in a WG or BOF, …
[Ballot comment]
> Full discussions of proposed work should take place where GENDISPATCH directs
> the work, whether that is in a WG or BOF, the IETF discussion list or Last Call
> list in the case of an AD-sponsored document, or in a forum designated by the
> relevant body to which the work was directed.

This reads a bit strange to me. Is this text necessary? One thing is to say "Gendispatch is not chartered to actually do the work" (which is the sentence before this one, and makes sense, and is very clear), but this is very specifically talking about exchanges on the mailing list (what are "full discussions" vs "normal discussions"?). To me it is obvious that once the item has been dispatched, there should be no need to keep discussing it in the gendispatch list, as it either moved to its own discussion area or got rejected or dropped, which is why this sentence is strange.

Francesca
2021-12-02
01-00 Francesca Palombini [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Francesca Palombini
2021-12-01
01-00 Benjamin Kaduk
[Ballot comment]
    Proposed new work may be deferred in cases where GENDISPATCH does not
    have enough information for the chairs to …
[Ballot comment]
    Proposed new work may be deferred in cases where GENDISPATCH does not
    have enough information for the chairs to determine consensus. New work
    may be rejected in cases where there is not sufficient interest in
    GENDISPATCH or the proposal has been considered and rejected in the
    past, unless a substantially revised proposal is put forth, including
    compelling new reasons for accepting the work.

Can work be rejected because the WG thinks it is a bad idea?  (Is that
supposed to be part of "not sufficient WG interest"?)

    The existence of GENDISPATCH does not change the IESG's responsibilities
    and discretion as described in RFC 3710. Work related to the IAB, IETF
    LLC, IRTF, and RFC Editor processes is out of scope.

It's a little bit hard to square "out of scope" with a willingness to
request that those bodies consider taking up work on a given topic.
2021-12-01
01-00 Benjamin Kaduk [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Benjamin Kaduk
2021-12-01
01-00 Robert Wilton
[Ballot comment]
I question whether AD sponsored documents should be discussed on the IETF discussion mailing list, or whether it would be better for those …
[Ballot comment]
I question whether AD sponsored documents should be discussed on the IETF discussion mailing list, or whether it would be better for those discussions to continue on the Gendispatch mailing (or an alternative open small mailing list)?  It is certainly possible that some individuals who may be interested in participating in these drafts are subscribed to Gendispatch but choose not to be subscribed to the IETF discussion mailing list.
2021-12-01
01-00 Robert Wilton [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Robert Wilton
2021-11-30
01-00 Erik Kline [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Erik Kline
2021-11-30
01-00 Lars Eggert [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Lars Eggert
2021-11-29
01-00 Murray Kucherawy [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Murray Kucherawy
2021-11-19
01-00 Martin Duke [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Martin Duke
2021-11-19
01-00 Cindy Morgan Telechat date has been changed to 2021-12-02 from 2019-10-17
2021-11-19
01-00 Lars Eggert WG action text was changed
2021-11-19
01-00 Lars Eggert WG review text was changed
2021-11-19
01-00 Lars Eggert WG review text was changed
2021-11-19
01-00 Lars Eggert Created "Ready for external review" ballot
2021-11-19
01-00 Lars Eggert State changed to Start Chartering/Rechartering (Internal Steering Group/IAB Review) from Draft Charter
2021-10-08
01-00 Lars Eggert State changed to Draft Charter from Approved
2021-10-08
01-00 Lars Eggert New version available: charter-ietf-gendispatch-01-00.txt
2021-03-10
01 Amy Vezza Responsible AD changed to Lars Eggert from Alissa Cooper
2019-10-18
01 Cindy Morgan New version available: charter-ietf-gendispatch-01.txt
2019-10-18
00-10 Cindy Morgan State changed to Approved from IESG Review (Charter for Approval, Selected by Secretariat)
2019-10-18
00-10 Cindy Morgan IESG has approved the charter
2019-10-18
00-10 Cindy Morgan Closed "Approve" ballot
2019-10-18
00-10 Cindy Morgan WG action text was changed
2019-10-18
00-10 Cindy Morgan WG action text was changed
2019-10-17
00-10 Mirja Kühlewind [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Mirja Kühlewind
2019-10-17
00-10 Alissa Cooper New version available: charter-ietf-gendispatch-00-10.txt
2019-10-17
00-09 Suresh Krishnan [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Suresh Krishnan
2019-10-17
00-09 Martin Vigoureux [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Martin Vigoureux
2019-10-17
00-09 Magnus Westerlund [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Magnus Westerlund
2019-10-16
00-09 Benjamin Kaduk
[Ballot comment]
  Guiding principles for the proposed new work include:
  [...]
  2. Ensuring there has been adequate mailing list discussion reflecting
  …
[Ballot comment]
  Guiding principles for the proposed new work include:
  [...]
  2. Ensuring there has been adequate mailing list discussion reflecting
  sufficient interest, individuals have expressed a willingness to contribute (if
  appropriate given the subject matter of the proposal) and there is WG consensus
  before new work is dispatched.

nit: this list does not have a parallel construction; perhaps "enough
indivdiuals" would help?

  Proposed new work may be deferred in cases where the WG does not have enough
  information for the chairs to determine consensus. New work may be rejected in
  cases where there is not sufficient WG interest or the proposal has been
  considered and rejected in the past, unless a substantially revised proposal is
  put forth, including compelling new reasons for accepting the work.

Can work be rejected because the WG thinks it is a bad idea?  (Is that
supposed to be part of "not sufficient WG interest"?)
2019-10-16
00-09 Benjamin Kaduk [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Benjamin Kaduk
2019-10-16
00-09 Roman Danyliw [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Roman Danyliw
2019-10-16
00-09 Alvaro Retana [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Alvaro Retana
2019-10-16
00-09 Ignas Bagdonas [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Ignas Bagdonas
2019-10-16
00-09 Alexey Melnikov [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Alexey Melnikov
2019-10-16
00-09 Adam Roach [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Adam Roach
2019-10-15
00-09 Barry Leiba [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Barry Leiba
2019-10-15
00-09 Deborah Brungard [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Deborah Brungard
2019-10-15
00-09 Alissa Cooper [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Alissa Cooper
2019-10-15
00-09 Éric Vyncke [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Éric Vyncke
2019-10-14
00-09 Cindy Morgan Created "Approve" ballot
2019-10-14
00-09 Cindy Morgan Closed "Approve" ballot
2019-10-14
00-09 Cindy Morgan State changed to IESG Review (Charter for Approval, Selected by Secretariat) from External Review (Message to Community, Selected by Secretariat)
2019-10-14
00-09 Éric Vyncke [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Éric Vyncke
2019-10-11
00-09 Alissa Cooper [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Alissa Cooper
2019-10-11
00-09 Alissa Cooper New version available: charter-ietf-gendispatch-00-09.txt
2019-09-26
00-08 Cindy Morgan Telechat date has been changed to 2019-10-17 from 2019-10-03
2019-09-26
00-08 Cindy Morgan WG new work message text was changed
2019-09-26
00-08 Cindy Morgan WG review text was changed
2019-09-26
00-08 Cindy Morgan WG review text was changed
2019-09-26
00-08 Cindy Morgan WG review text was changed
2019-09-26
00-08 Alissa Cooper Created "Approve" ballot
2019-09-26
00-08 Alissa Cooper Closed "Ready for external review" ballot
2019-09-26
00-08 Alissa Cooper State changed to External Review (Message to Community, Selected by Secretariat) from Start Chartering/Rechartering (Internal IESG/IAB Review)
2019-09-26
00-08 Alissa Cooper New version available: charter-ietf-gendispatch-00-08.txt
2019-09-26
00-07 Alissa Cooper New version available: charter-ietf-gendispatch-00-07.txt
2019-09-26
00-06 Alissa Cooper New version available: charter-ietf-gendispatch-00-06.txt
2019-09-19
00-05 Barry Leiba [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Barry Leiba
2019-09-19
00-05 Cindy Morgan Placed on agenda for telechat - 2019-10-03
2019-09-19
00-05 Alissa Cooper WG action text was changed
2019-09-19
00-05 Alissa Cooper WG review text was changed
2019-09-19
00-05 Alissa Cooper WG review text was changed
2019-09-19
00-05 Alissa Cooper Created "Ready for external review" ballot
2019-09-19
00-05 Alissa Cooper State changed to Start Chartering/Rechartering (Internal IESG/IAB Review) from Draft Charter
2019-09-17
00-05 Alissa Cooper New version available: charter-ietf-gendispatch-00-05.txt
2019-09-17
00-04 Alissa Cooper New version available: charter-ietf-gendispatch-00-04.txt
2019-09-17
00-03 Alissa Cooper New version available: charter-ietf-gendispatch-00-03.txt
2019-09-17
00-02 Alissa Cooper New version available: charter-ietf-gendispatch-00-02.txt
2019-09-17
00-01 Alissa Cooper New version available: charter-ietf-gendispatch-00-01.txt
2019-09-17
00-00 Amy Vezza State changed to Draft Charter from Not currently under review
2019-09-16
00-00 Alissa Cooper New version available: charter-ietf-gendispatch-00-00.txt