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Emergency Context Resolution with Internet Technologies
charter-ietf-ecrit-04

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Date Rev. By Action
2020-03-25
04 Amy Vezza Responsible AD changed to Murray Kucherawy from Adam Roach
2018-01-30
04 Amy Vezza Responsible AD changed to Adam Roach from Richard Barnes
2013-12-06
04 Cindy Morgan New version available: charter-ietf-ecrit-04.txt
2013-12-06
04 Cindy Morgan State changed to Approved from IESG review
2013-12-06
04 Cindy Morgan IESG has approved the charter
2013-12-06
04 Cindy Morgan Closed "Approve" ballot
2013-12-06
04 Cindy Morgan Closed "Ready for external review" ballot
2013-12-06
03-02 Cindy Morgan WG action text was changed
2013-12-06
03-02 Cindy Morgan WG action text was changed
2013-12-06
03-02 Cindy Morgan New version to fix line breaks.
2013-12-06
03-02 Cindy Morgan New version available: charter-ietf-ecrit-03-02.txt
2013-12-05
03-01 Gonzalo Camarillo [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Gonzalo Camarillo
2013-12-05
03-01 Stephen Farrell [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Stephen Farrell
2013-12-05
03-01 Sean Turner [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Sean Turner
2013-12-04
03-01 Joel Jaeggli [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Joel Jaeggli
2013-12-04
03-01 Brian Haberman [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Brian Haberman
2013-12-04
03-01 Ted Lemon [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Ted Lemon
2013-12-04
03-01 Jari Arkko [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Jari Arkko
2013-12-04
03-01 Benoît Claise
[Ballot comment]
The following two new paragraphs are very generic:
Beyond human initiated emergency call request mechanisms, this group will
develop new methods to enable …
[Ballot comment]
The following two new paragraphs are very generic:
Beyond human initiated emergency call request mechanisms, this group will
develop new methods to enable non-human-initiated requests for emergency
assistance, such as sensor initiated emergency requests.

The working group will also address topics required for the operation of
emergency calling systems, such as:  authentication of location, management
of the service URN namespace, augmented information that could assist
emergency call takers or responders.

Don't you want some more precise milestones?
2013-12-04
03-01 Benoît Claise [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Benoit Claise
2013-12-04
03-01 Spencer Dawkins [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Spencer Dawkins
2013-12-04
03-01 Martin Stiemerling [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Martin Stiemerling
2013-12-04
03-01 Adrian Farrel [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Adrian Farrel
2013-12-03
03-01 Pete Resnick [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Pete Resnick
2013-12-03
03-01 Stewart Bryant [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Stewart Bryant
2013-12-03
03-01 Richard Barnes [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Richard Barnes
2013-12-03
03-01 Barry Leiba [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Barry Leiba
2013-12-03
03-01 Richard Barnes Created "Approve" ballot
2013-12-03
03-01 Richard Barnes State changed to IESG review from External review
2013-11-22
03-01 Cindy Morgan State changed to External review from Internal review
2013-11-22
03-01 Cindy Morgan Telechat date has been changed to 2013-12-05 from 2013-11-21
2013-11-22
03-01 Cindy Morgan WG review text was changed
2013-11-22
03-00 Cindy Morgan WG review text was changed
2013-11-21
03-00 Pete Resnick [Ballot Position Update] Position for Pete Resnick has been changed to No Objection from Block
2013-11-21
03-01 Richard Barnes New version available: charter-ietf-ecrit-03-01.txt
2013-11-21
03-00 Adrian Farrel [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Adrian Farrel
2013-11-21
03-00 Jari Arkko [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Jari Arkko
2013-11-21
03-00 Stephen Farrell
[Ballot comment]

I hate the "WG cares" language. "We care deeply about
your privacy..." is nowadays a bad thing to see really and
this smacks …
[Ballot comment]

I hate the "WG cares" language. "We care deeply about
your privacy..." is nowadays a bad thing to see really and
this smacks of that. Just they will work on security and
privacy.
2013-11-21
03-00 Stephen Farrell [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Stephen Farrell
2013-11-21
03-00 Gonzalo Camarillo [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Gonzalo Camarillo
2013-11-21
03-00 Ted Lemon [Ballot comment]
I support Pete's proposed tightening of the language in the charter.
2013-11-21
03-00 Ted Lemon [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Ted Lemon
2013-11-21
03-00 Spencer Dawkins [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Spencer Dawkins
2013-11-21
03-00 Benoît Claise
[Ballot comment]
I don't understand what is the task behind the following paragraph

  The group will show how the availability of location data
  …
[Ballot comment]
I don't understand what is the task behind the following paragraph

  The group will show how the availability of location data
  and call routing information at different steps in the call session
  setup would enable communication between a user and a relevant
  emergency response center.

Pete suggested:
How about: "The group will define protocols for the use of location data and
call routing information at different steps in the call session setup to enable
communication between a user and a relevant emergency response center."

I still don't understand how the location data would "enable communication"?
Basically, you want to report the location data, or what do I miss?
2013-11-21
03-00 Benoît Claise Ballot comment text updated for Benoit Claise
2013-11-21
03-00 Benoît Claise [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Benoit Claise
2013-11-20
03-00 Pete Resnick
[Ballot block]
While reviewing the -unauthenticated-access document, I referred back to the current ECRIT charter. I found parts of it quite loose and underspecified. Since …
[Ballot block]
While reviewing the -unauthenticated-access document, I referred back to the current ECRIT charter. I found parts of it quite loose and underspecified. Since re-chartering is happening now, I'm hoping that we might be able to tighten things up a bit:

  This working group will describe where and how these mechanisms may
  be used.

Can we change this to "This working group will specify where and how these mechanism are to be used for emergency call requests."? "Describing" isn't really the task; "specifying" is.
 
  The group will show how the availability of location data
  and call routing information at different steps in the call session
  setup would enable communication between a user and a relevant
  emergency response center.
 
How about: "The group will define protocols for the use of location data and call routing information at different steps in the call session setup to enable communication between a user and a relevant emergency response center."

  Beyond human initiated emergency call request mechanisms, this group
  will develop new methods to request emergency assistance, such as
  sensor initiated emergency requests,

"will develop protocols for non-voice communication requests for emergency assistance, such as sensor initiated emergency requests"

  and additional processes
  specified that address topics such as authentication of location,
  service URN definition and use, augmented information that could
  assist emergency call takers or responders.

The grammar is screwed up in there, but more importantly, I don't know what "service URN definition and use" means in this context. (Well, to be fair, I have a pretty good idea of what it means, but it is not explained clearly enough to be useful as a charter item.) So start with, "as well as protocols to address topics such as authentication of location, provision of augmented information to assist emergency call takers or responders, and [fill in what you really mean as a task regarding the URN stuff; maybe 'alternate call types' or something]."
2013-11-20
03-00 Pete Resnick
[Ballot comment]
  This working group cares about privacy and security concerns, and
  will address them within its documents.

Change to "This working group …
[Ballot comment]
  This working group cares about privacy and security concerns, and
  will address them within its documents.

Change to "This working group will address privacy and security issues regarding emergency calling in its documents."
2013-11-20
03-00 Pete Resnick Ballot comment and discuss text updated for Pete Resnick
2013-11-20
03-00 Pete Resnick
[Ballot block]
While reviewing the -unauthenticated-access document, I referred back to the current ECRIT charter. I found parts of it quite loose and underspecified. Since …
[Ballot block]
While reviewing the -unauthenticated-access document, I referred back to the current ECRIT charter. I found parts of it quite loose and underspecified. Since re-chartering is happening now, I'm hoping that we might be able to tighten things up a bit:

  This working group will describe where and how these mechanisms may
  be used.

Can we change this to "This working group will specify where and how these mechanism are to be used for emergency call requests."? "Describing" isn't really the task; "specifying" is.
 
  The group will show how the availability of location data
  and call routing information at different steps in the call session
  setup would enable communication between a user and a relevant
  emergency response center.
 
How about: "The group will define protocols for the use of location data and call routing information at different steps in the call session setup to enable communication between a user and a relevant emergency response center."

  Beyond human initiated emergency call request mechanisms, this group
  will develop new methods to request emergency assistance, such as
  sensor initiated emergency requests,

"will develop protocols for non-voice communication requests for emergency assistance, such as sensor initiated emergency requests"

  and additional processes
  specified that address topics such as authentication of location,
  service URN definition and use, augmented information that could
  assist emergency call takers or responders.

The grammar is screwed up in there, but more importantly, I don't know what "service URN definition and use" means in this context. (Well, to be fair, I have a pretty good idea of what it means, but it is not explained clearly enough to be useful as a charter item.) So start with, "as well as protocols to address topics such as authentication of location, provision of augmented information to assist emergency call takers or responders, and [fill in what you really mean as a task regarding the URN stuff; maybe 'alternate call types' or something]."

  This working group cares about privacy and security concerns, and
  will address them within its documents.

Change to "This working group will address privacy and security issues regarding emergency calling in its documents."
2013-11-20
03-00 Pete Resnick [Ballot Position Update] New position, Block, has been recorded for Pete Resnick
2013-11-20
03-00 Sean Turner [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Sean Turner
2013-11-20
03-00 Cindy Morgan Responsible AD changed to Richard Barnes
2013-11-19
03-00 Richard Barnes [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Richard Barnes
2013-11-18
03-00 Brian Haberman [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Brian Haberman
2013-11-18
03-00 Martin Stiemerling [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Martin Stiemerling
2013-11-18
03-00 Stewart Bryant
[Ballot comment]
Given that one obvious source of location information is the SSID information gleaned from WIFI interfaces, I a surprised that there is no …
[Ballot comment]
Given that one obvious source of location information is the SSID information gleaned from WIFI interfaces, I a surprised that there is no association with groups with that expertise.
2013-11-18
03-00 Stewart Bryant [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Stewart Bryant
2013-11-17
03-00 Joel Jaeggli
[Ballot comment]
  "Explicitly outside the scope of this group is the question of pre-
  emption or prioritization of emergency services traffic."

I assume …
[Ballot comment]
  "Explicitly outside the scope of this group is the question of pre-
  emption or prioritization of emergency services traffic."

I assume this is describing the network situation.

The IETF emergency services work does seem to presume that emegency services communication on the devices can preempt other activity on devices or bypass configured handset/device policy. which while not a form of network pre-emption is I think a consideration and should probably be made more explicitly here, e.g.

Explicitly outside the scope of this group is the question of network pre-
emption or prioritization of emergency services traffic.

would stake that out as referring to the network.
2013-11-17
03-00 Joel Jaeggli [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Joel Jaeggli
2013-11-12
03-00 Barry Leiba [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Barry Leiba
2013-10-28
03-00 Cindy Morgan
2013-10-28
03-00 Cindy Morgan WG action text was changed
2013-10-28
03-00 Cindy Morgan WG review text was changed
2013-10-28
03-00 Cindy Morgan Created "Ready for external review" ballot
2013-10-28
03-00 Cindy Morgan State changed to Internal review from Informal IESG review
2013-10-28
03-00 Cindy Morgan
Added milestone "Submit 'Using Imprecise Location for Emergency Call Routing' to the IESG for consideration as an Informational RFC", due March 2014, from current group …
Added milestone "Submit 'Using Imprecise Location for Emergency Call Routing' to the IESG for consideration as an Informational RFC", due March 2014, from current group milestones
2013-10-28
03-00 Cindy Morgan
Added milestone " Submit a draft 'URN For Country Specific Emergency Services' to the IESG for consideration as a Standards Track RFC", due December 2013, …
Added milestone " Submit a draft 'URN For Country Specific Emergency Services' to the IESG for consideration as a Standards Track RFC", due December 2013, from current group milestones
2013-10-28
03-00 Cindy Morgan Added milestone "Submit a draft 'Policy for defining new service-identifying labels' to the IESG for consideration as BCP", due December 2013, from current group milestones
2013-10-28
03-00 Cindy Morgan
Added milestone "Submit 'Additional Data related to a Call for Emergency Call Purposes' to the IESG for consideration as a Standards Track RFC", due December …
Added milestone "Submit 'Additional Data related to a Call for Emergency Call Purposes' to the IESG for consideration as a Standards Track RFC", due December 2013, from current group milestones
2013-10-28
03-00 Cindy Morgan Added milestone "Submit 'Trustworthy Location Information' to the IESG for consideration as an Informational RFC", due November 2013, from current group milestones
2013-10-28
03-00 Cindy Morgan
Added milestone "Submit 'Common Alerting Protocol (CAP) based Data-Only Emergency Alerts using the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP)' to the IESG for consideration as an Experimental …
Added milestone "Submit 'Common Alerting Protocol (CAP) based Data-Only Emergency Alerts using the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP)' to the IESG for consideration as an Experimental RFC", due November 2013, from current group milestones
2013-10-28
03-00 Cindy Morgan
Added milestone "Submit 'Extensions to the Emergency Services Architecture for dealing with Unauthenticated and Unauthorized Devices' to the IESG for consideration as a Standards Track …
Added milestone "Submit 'Extensions to the Emergency Services Architecture for dealing with Unauthenticated and Unauthorized Devices' to the IESG for consideration as a Standards Track RFC", due October 2013, from current group milestones
2013-10-28
03-00 Cindy Morgan Added milestone "Submit 'Public Safety Answering Point (PSAP) Callbacks' to the IESG for consideration as an Informational RFC", due May 2013, from current group milestones
2013-10-28
03-00 Cindy Morgan
Added milestone "Submit 'Synchronizing Location-to-Service Translation (LoST) Protocol based Service Boundaries and Mapping Elements' to the IESG for consideration as an Experimental RFC", due October …
Added milestone "Submit 'Synchronizing Location-to-Service Translation (LoST) Protocol based Service Boundaries and Mapping Elements' to the IESG for consideration as an Experimental RFC", due October 2010, from current group milestones
2013-10-28
03-00 Cindy Morgan
Added milestone "Submit 'LoST Extension for returning Boundary Information for Services' to the IESG for consideration as an Experimental RFC", due December 2009, from current …
Added milestone "Submit 'LoST Extension for returning Boundary Information for Services' to the IESG for consideration as an Experimental RFC", due December 2009, from current group milestones
2013-10-28
03-00 Cindy Morgan
Added milestone "Submit 'Best Current Practice for Communications Services in support of Emergency Calling' to the IESG for consideration as a BCP document", due July …
Added milestone "Submit 'Best Current Practice for Communications Services in support of Emergency Calling' to the IESG for consideration as a BCP document", due July 2009, from current group milestones
2013-10-28
03-00 Cindy Morgan
Added milestone "Submit 'Framework for Emergency Calling using Internet Multimedia' to the IESG for consideration as an Informational RFC.", due July 2009, from current group …
Added milestone "Submit 'Framework for Emergency Calling using Internet Multimedia' to the IESG for consideration as an Informational RFC.", due July 2009, from current group milestones
2013-10-28
03-00 Cindy Morgan Added milestone "Submit 'Location Hiding: Problem Statement and Requirements' to the IESG for consideration as an Informational RFC.", due June 2009, from current group milestones
2013-10-28
03-00 Cindy Morgan Added milestone "An Informational document describing the Mapping Protocol Architecture", due November 2006, from current group milestones
2013-10-28
03-00 Cindy Morgan Added milestone "A Standards Track RFC describing how to route an emergency call based on location information", due November 2006, from current group milestones
2013-10-28
03-00 Cindy Morgan
Added milestone "A Standards Track RFC describing how to identify a session set-up request is to an emergency response center", due July 2006, from current …
Added milestone "A Standards Track RFC describing how to identify a session set-up request is to an emergency response center", due July 2006, from current group milestones
2013-10-28
03-00 Cindy Morgan Added milestone "An Informational document describing the threats and security considerations", due July 2006, from current group milestones
2013-10-28
03-00 Cindy Morgan Added milestone "Informational RFC containing terminology definitions and the requirements", due July 2006, from current group milestones
2013-10-28
03-00 Cindy Morgan State changed to Informal IESG review from Approved
2013-10-28
03-00 Cindy Morgan New version available: charter-ietf-ecrit-03-00.txt
2009-08-29
03 (System) New version available: charter-ietf-ecrit-03.txt
2009-08-29
02 (System) New version available: charter-ietf-ecrit-02.txt
2005-02-03
01 (System) New version available: charter-ietf-ecrit-01.txt