IMAP4 Extension: Message Preview Generation
draft-ietf-extra-imap-fetch-preview-10
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2020-11-20
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2020-11-18
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2020-11-18
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10 | (System) | IESG state changed to RFC Ed Queue from Approved-announcement sent |
2020-11-18
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2020-11-18
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10 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to In Progress |
2020-11-18
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10 | Cindy Morgan | IESG state changed to Approved-announcement sent from Approved-announcement to be sent |
2020-11-18
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10 | Cindy Morgan | IESG has approved the document |
2020-11-18
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10 | Cindy Morgan | Closed "Approve" ballot |
2020-11-18
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10 | Cindy Morgan | Ballot approval text was generated |
2020-11-17
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10 | Barry Leiba | IESG state changed to Approved-announcement to be sent from IESG Evaluation::AD Followup |
2020-11-17
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10 | Barry Leiba | Ballot writeup was changed |
2020-10-05
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10 | Robert Wilton | [Ballot comment] Discuss cleared. One minor comment: This standardized display can reduce user confusion when using multiple clients, as abbreviated message representations in … [Ballot comment] Discuss cleared. One minor comment: This standardized display can reduce user confusion when using multiple clients, as abbreviated message representations in clients will show identical message contents. I didn't really find this reasoning to be compelling, and perhaps it could be removed. In my experience the amount of preview displayed depends on client behaviour or settings (e.g., how much space to allow for previews). Regards, Rob |
2020-10-05
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10 | Robert Wilton | [Ballot Position Update] Position for Robert Wilton has been changed to No Objection from Discuss |
2020-09-30
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10 | (System) | Sub state has been changed to AD Followup from Revised ID Needed |
2020-09-30
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10 | (System) | IANA Review state changed to Version Changed - Review Needed from IANA OK - Actions Needed |
2020-09-30
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10 | Michael Slusarz | New version available: draft-ietf-extra-imap-fetch-preview-10.txt |
2020-09-30
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10 | (System) | New version approved |
2020-09-30
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10 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Michael Slusarz |
2020-09-30
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10 | Michael Slusarz | Uploaded new revision |
2020-09-24
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09 | Cindy Morgan | IESG state changed to IESG Evaluation::Revised I-D Needed from IESG Evaluation |
2020-09-24
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09 | Alvaro Retana | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Alvaro Retana |
2020-09-24
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09 | Martin Vigoureux | [Ballot comment] Hi, thank you for this document. Couple of minor comments relating to normative language, plus a question. A server SHOULD strive to … [Ballot comment] Hi, thank you for this document. Couple of minor comments relating to normative language, plus a question. A server SHOULD strive to generate shouldn't that be: A server SHOULD generate should be sized to prevent possible overflow errors SHOULD? Whether the server uses a cached preview or generates a new one (may be identical to cached) is implementation specific? nits: s/additional display/additionally display/ |
2020-09-24
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09 | Martin Vigoureux | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Martin Vigoureux |
2020-09-23
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09 | Alissa Cooper | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Alissa Cooper |
2020-09-23
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09 | Warren Kumari | [Ballot comment] Thank you for writing this document - I found it easy to read, useful, and interesting (even to a non-IMAP person!). I was … [Ballot comment] Thank you for writing this document - I found it easy to read, useful, and interesting (even to a non-IMAP person!). I was initially concerned that this would be adding significant load to the server, but the explanation on the tradeoff answered that - thanks! I'd note that the shepherd write-up is now out of date - Barry, not Alexey is the responsible AD (this isn't worth updating, just mentioning) |
2020-09-23
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09 | Warren Kumari | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Warren Kumari |
2020-09-23
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09 | Robert Wilton | [Ballot discuss] Hi, Thanks for this document. I found it easy to read and understand, but have one potential issue that probably warrants a bit … [Ballot discuss] Hi, Thanks for this document. I found it easy to read and understand, but have one potential issue that probably warrants a bit of discussion. I don't have any great knowledge of IMAP, so this may already be handled elsewhere, but I had a concern about returning zero-length strings under error conditions. It is possible that the server has determined that no meaningful preview text can be generated for a particular message, and that decision won't change later. Examples of this involve encrypted messages, content types the server does not support previews of, and other situations where the server is not able to extract information for a preview. In such cases, the server MUST return a zero-length string. Clients SHOULD NOT send another FETCH for a preview for such messages. (As discussed previously, preview data is not immutable so there is chance that at some point in the future the server would be able to generate meaningful text. However, this scenario is expected to be rare so a client should not continually send out requests to try to capture this infrequent occurrence.) ... A server MUST NOT return NIL to a FETCH PREVIEW request made without the LAZY modifier. When the LAZY modifier is not being used, then what would be returned if the server was transiently unable to return the preview for any reason? Does it still have to return a zero-length string in this error case? Is there some way that the server can indicate that it cannot satisfy the request now but without indicating that no preview is available? |
2020-09-23
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09 | Robert Wilton | [Ballot comment] One minor comment: This standardized display can reduce user confusion when using multiple clients, as abbreviated message representations in clients … [Ballot comment] One minor comment: This standardized display can reduce user confusion when using multiple clients, as abbreviated message representations in clients will show identical message contents. I didn't really find this reasoning to be compelling, and perhaps it could be removed. In my experience the amount of preview displayed depends on client behaviour or settings (e.g., how much space to allow for previews). Regards, Rob |
2020-09-23
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09 | Robert Wilton | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Discuss, has been recorded for Robert Wilton |
2020-09-22
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09 | Roman Danyliw | [Ballot comment] Thank you for addressing my feedback from the initial IESG review of this document. |
2020-09-22
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09 | Roman Danyliw | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Roman Danyliw |
2020-09-22
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09 | Benjamin Kaduk | [Ballot comment] I agree with Martin D's comment. I was a little surprised to not see any mention of the analogous JMAP capability (but I … [Ballot comment] I agree with Martin D's comment. I was a little surprised to not see any mention of the analogous JMAP capability (but I guess I'm not actually sure whether one or the other "came first"). Section 3.3 The server SHOULD limit the length of the preview text to 200 preview characters. This length should provide sufficient data to generally support both various languages (and their different average word lengths) and diverse client display size requirements. Does the internationalization directorate agree with this analysis? format, size, and filename. This descriptive text is not a product of the message body itself but is rather auto-generated data by the server, and should thus use the rules defined for human-generated text described in the LANGUAGE extension (if supported on the server). nit: is "human-generated text" the right description here? A quick read of RFC 5255 suggests that "generated for human consumption" is usually the appropriate characterization of text affected by the langauge selection. Section 4.2 Once this initial FETCH is complete, the client can then issue FETCH requests, without the LAZY modifier, to load the preview data for the nit: "PREVIEW data item" would be more consistent with the previous paragraph (and make it harder to skip over the fact that the preview data is being FETCHed, not the entire message). messages in which preview data was not returned. It is RECOMMENDED that these FETCH requests be issued in small batches, e.g. 50 messages per FETCH command, since preview generation may be expensive and a single large request may exceed server resource limits. nit: comma after "e.g.". Section 5 I'd consider updating the dates in the examples to be closer to the publication date of the document. Section 8 Does it go without saying that a given user should only have access to preview content for messages that it has access to the full content of? results are stored on the server after generation. Servers MAY limit the resources that preview generation uses. In order to mitigate Would this result in the server generating empty-string previews for some messages that it would otherwise have produced a non-empty preview for? I'd like to see a little more description of expected server behavior in the case of excessive resource usage for preview generation. |
2020-09-22
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09 | Benjamin Kaduk | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Benjamin Kaduk |
2020-09-22
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09 | Deborah Brungard | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Deborah Brungard |
2020-09-22
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09 | Martin Duke | [Ballot comment] I don't understand the purpose of the phrase "and that decision won't change later" in Section 3.2. Even if the decision were to … [Ballot comment] I don't understand the purpose of the phrase "and that decision won't change later" in Section 3.2. Even if the decision were to change later, if there is nothing to present there will still be an empty response, no? |
2020-09-22
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09 | Martin Duke | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Martin Duke |
2020-09-22
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09 | Magnus Westerlund | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Magnus Westerlund |
2020-09-21
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09 | Murray Kucherawy | [Ballot comment] In Section 1, this reads oddly: Using server-generated previews allows global generation once per message, and then cached for the retention … [Ballot comment] In Section 1, this reads oddly: Using server-generated previews allows global generation once per message, and then cached for the retention period of the source message. Perhaps add "they can be" before "cached"? Down in Section 7, I'm not sure the URL is necessary or wise to include. If IANA should choose to change it for whatever reason, this reference becomes obsolete. I think the name of the registry is sufficient. |
2020-09-21
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09 | Murray Kucherawy | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Murray Kucherawy |
2020-09-21
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09 | Éric Vyncke | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Éric Vyncke |
2020-09-19
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09 | Erik Kline | [Ballot comment] [[ nits ]] [ section 4.2 ] * "may want to additional display" -> "may want to additionally display" |
2020-09-19
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09 | Erik Kline | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Erik Kline |
2020-09-17
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09 | Cindy Morgan | Telechat date has been changed to 2020-09-24 from 2019-04-11 |
2020-09-17
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09 | Barry Leiba | [Ballot comment] This was balloted before, but has had major changes since then and is a very different document. It's just been through another last … [Ballot comment] This was balloted before, but has had major changes since then and is a very different document. It's just been through another last call, and I've cleared out the old ballot so we can have a fresh look. |
2020-09-17
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09 | Barry Leiba | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Barry Leiba |
2020-09-17
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09 | Barry Leiba | Created "Approve" ballot |
2020-09-17
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09 | Barry Leiba | Closed "Approve" ballot |
2020-09-17
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09 | Barry Leiba | The GenART review needs a response from the author, and perhaps a very minor text change. |
2020-09-17
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09 | Barry Leiba | IESG state changed to IESG Evaluation from Waiting for AD Go-Ahead |
2020-09-15
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09 | Meral Shirazipour | Request for Last Call review by GENART Completed: Ready with Nits. Reviewer: Meral Shirazipour. Sent review to list. |
2020-09-14
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09 | (System) | IESG state changed to Waiting for AD Go-Ahead from In Last Call |
2020-09-11
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09 | (System) | IANA Review state changed to IANA OK - Actions Needed from Version Changed - Review Needed |
2020-09-11
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09 | Sabrina Tanamal | (Via drafts-lastcall@iana.org): IESG/Authors/WG Chairs: The IANA Functions Operator has completed its review of draft-ietf-extra-imap-fetch-preview-09. If any part of this review is inaccurate, please let … (Via drafts-lastcall@iana.org): IESG/Authors/WG Chairs: The IANA Functions Operator has completed its review of draft-ietf-extra-imap-fetch-preview-09. If any part of this review is inaccurate, please let us know. The IANA Functions Operator understands that, upon approval of this document, there is a single action which we must complete. In the Internet Message Access Protocol (IMAP) Capabilities Registry located at: https://www.iana.org/assignments/imap-capabilities/ a new registration is to be made as follows: Capability Name: PREVIEW Reference: [ RFC-to-be ] The IANA Functions Operator understands that this is the only action required to be completed upon approval of this document. Note: The actions requested in this document will not be completed until the document has been approved for publication as an RFC. This message is meant only to confirm the list of actions that will be performed. Thank you, Sabrina Tanamal Senior IANA Services Specialist |
2020-09-09
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09 | Stefan Santesson | Request for Last Call review by SECDIR Completed: Ready. Reviewer: Stefan Santesson. Sent review to list. |
2020-09-03
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09 | Jean Mahoney | Request for Last Call review by GENART is assigned to Meral Shirazipour |
2020-09-03
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09 | Jean Mahoney | Request for Last Call review by GENART is assigned to Meral Shirazipour |
2020-09-03
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09 | Tero Kivinen | Request for Last Call review by SECDIR is assigned to Stefan Santesson |
2020-09-03
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09 | Tero Kivinen | Request for Last Call review by SECDIR is assigned to Stefan Santesson |
2020-08-31
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09 | Amy Vezza | The following Last Call announcement was sent out (ends 2020-09-14): From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce CC: brong@fastmailteam.com, barryleiba@gmail.com, Bron Gondwana , extra-chairs@ietf.org, … The following Last Call announcement was sent out (ends 2020-09-14): From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce CC: brong@fastmailteam.com, barryleiba@gmail.com, Bron Gondwana , extra-chairs@ietf.org, extra@ietf.org, draft-ietf-extra-imap-fetch-preview@ietf.org Reply-To: last-call@ietf.org Sender: Subject: Last Call: (IMAP4 Extension: Message Preview Generation) to Proposed Standard The IESG has received a request from the Email mailstore and eXtensions To Revise or Amend WG (extra) to consider the following document: - 'IMAP4 Extension: Message Preview Generation' as Proposed Standard This document went through Last Call in February 2019, but has had major revisions and simplification since then, and is back for a second Last Call at this time. The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the last-call@ietf.org mailing lists by 2020-09-14. Exceptionally, comments may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting. Abstract This document specifies an Internet Message Access Protocol (IMAP) protocol extension allowing a client to request a server-generated abbreviated text representation of message data useful as a contextual preview of the entire message. The file can be obtained via https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-extra-imap-fetch-preview/ No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D. |
2020-08-31
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09 | Amy Vezza | IESG state changed to In Last Call from Last Call Requested |
2020-08-31
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09 | Barry Leiba | Last call was requested |
2020-08-31
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09 | Barry Leiba | IESG state changed to Last Call Requested from AD Evaluation |
2020-08-31
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09 | Barry Leiba | Last call announcement was changed |
2020-08-31
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09 | Barry Leiba | Last call announcement was generated |
2020-08-31
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09 | Barry Leiba | Ballot writeup was changed |
2020-08-31
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09 | Barry Leiba | IESG state changed to AD Evaluation from Publication Requested |
2020-08-31
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09 | Barry Leiba | IESG state changed to Publication Requested from Dead |
2020-08-31
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09 | Barry Leiba | IETF WG state changed to Submitted to IESG for Publication from In WG Last Call |
2020-07-29
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09 | Michael Slusarz | New version available: draft-ietf-extra-imap-fetch-preview-09.txt |
2020-07-29
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09 | (System) | New version approved |
2020-07-29
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09 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Michael Slusarz |
2020-07-29
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09 | Michael Slusarz | Uploaded new revision |
2020-07-23
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08 | Bron Gondwana | Document Shepherd Write-Up for draft-ietf-extra-imap-fetch-preview 1. This document is being requested as an Proposed Standard because it extends an existing Proposed Standard (RFC3501). … Document Shepherd Write-Up for draft-ietf-extra-imap-fetch-preview 1. This document is being requested as an Proposed Standard because it extends an existing Proposed Standard (RFC3501). The request type is indicated in the title page header as "Standards Track" 2. Technical Summary This spec extends IMAP with an additional fetch item (PREVIEW) which allows clients to obtain a short piece of text to use as a preview line in mailbox listings. Working Group Summary This document and fetch item was originally named "snippet", however JMAP uses "preview" for the equivalent field, and "snippet" for a marked up section of the message containing search terms, so the working group agreed to change the naming to be consistent. There was also debate over the maximum length, with both JMAP and EXTRA working groups settling on 256 characters maximum. Finally there were questions over whether "LAZY" was useful, but nobody saw any downside to including it. Servers can choose to always calculate the preview even if LAZY is given. There was a significant amount of rework through multiple meetings which led to a very complex document. In the end, the authors asked to drop the complexity and go back to an earlier version. This achieved working group consensus, so we're back where we were again! Document Quality This spec is quite easy to implement - it has multiple examples for all the likely cases. It's been implemented in Dovecot and Cyrus IMAPd. Personnel Document Shepherd - Bron Gondwana (EXTRA co-chair) Responsible Area Director - Alexey Melnikov 3. The Document Shepherd has read the document through in detail and implemented it in the Cyrus IMAPd server. 4. There are no concerns about reviews, this document has been well reviewed. 5. There is no review required for the document by other areas. 6. There are no concerns with this document that IESG should be aware of. 7. Yes, the author has been contacted and confirmed and confirmed that they have no disclosures. 8. There have been no IPR disclosures filed. 9. The WG consensus is solid. 10. There has been no discontent. 11. The ID nits tool said that the document year doesn't match current year, but that's only because I ran it really early in 2019! 12. This document doesn't define anything which needs formal review outside the working group. 13. All references have been identified as either normative or informative. 14. All normative references are published standards. 15. There are no downward normative references references. 16. This RFC does not change the status of any other RFCs. 17. The IANA considerations just asks for an entry in the IMAP capabilities registry. 18. There are no new IANA registries. 19. The formal sections were validated with Chris Newman's ABNF validator tool. |
2020-07-01
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08 | Bron Gondwana | This document was pulled back to the working group to be reverted to an earlier and simpler version. |
2020-07-01
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08 | Bron Gondwana | Tag Revised I-D Needed - Issue raised by AD cleared. |
2020-07-01
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08 | Bron Gondwana | IETF WG state changed to In WG Last Call from WG Document |
2020-07-01
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08 | Michael Slusarz | New version available: draft-ietf-extra-imap-fetch-preview-08.txt |
2020-07-01
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08 | (System) | New version approved |
2020-07-01
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08 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Michael Slusarz |
2020-07-01
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08 | Michael Slusarz | Uploaded new revision |
2020-06-25
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07 | (System) | Document has expired |
2020-06-25
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07 | (System) | IESG state changed to Dead from AD is watching |
2020-06-24
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07 | Barry Leiba | Tag Revised I-D Needed - Issue raised by AD set. |
2020-06-24
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07 | Barry Leiba | IETF WG state changed to WG Document from Submitted to IESG for Publication |
2020-06-24
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07 | Barry Leiba | Going back to the working group for simplification... |
2020-06-24
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07 | Barry Leiba | IESG state changed to AD is watching from IESG Evaluation::Revised I-D Needed |
2020-03-10
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07 | Alexey Melnikov | Shepherding AD changed to Barry Leiba |
2020-02-07
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07 | Alexey Melnikov | I think if "text/imap-fetch-preview" is globally changed to "text/plain" this should resolve all outstanding issues. |
2020-02-07
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07 | Alexey Melnikov | IESG state changed to IESG Evaluation::Revised I-D Needed from IESG Evaluation::AD Followup |
2019-12-10
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07 | Michael Slusarz | New version available: draft-ietf-extra-imap-fetch-preview-07.txt |
2019-12-10
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07 | (System) | New version approved |
2019-12-10
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07 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Michael Slusarz |
2019-12-10
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07 | Michael Slusarz | Uploaded new revision |
2019-08-26
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06 | Gunter Van de Velde | Assignment of request for Last Call review by OPSDIR to Jouni Korhonen was marked no-response |
2019-07-01
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06 | Michael Slusarz | New version available: draft-ietf-extra-imap-fetch-preview-06.txt |
2019-07-01
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06 | (System) | New version approved |
2019-07-01
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06 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Michael Slusarz |
2019-07-01
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06 | Michael Slusarz | Uploaded new revision |
2019-04-30
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05 | Roman Danyliw | [Ballot comment] Thank you for addressing my DISCUSSes and comments. |
2019-04-30
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05 | Roman Danyliw | [Ballot Position Update] Position for Roman Danyliw has been changed to No Objection from Discuss |
2019-04-28
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05 | Michael Slusarz | New version available: draft-ietf-extra-imap-fetch-preview-05.txt |
2019-04-28
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05 | (System) | New version approved |
2019-04-28
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05 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Michael Slusarz |
2019-04-28
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05 | Michael Slusarz | Uploaded new revision |
2019-04-24
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04 | (System) | Sub state has been changed to AD Followup from Revised ID Needed |
2019-04-24
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04 | (System) | IANA Review state changed to Version Changed - Review Needed from IANA OK - Actions Needed |
2019-04-24
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04 | Michael Slusarz | New version available: draft-ietf-extra-imap-fetch-preview-04.txt |
2019-04-24
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04 | (System) | New version approved |
2019-04-24
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04 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Michael Slusarz |
2019-04-24
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04 | Michael Slusarz | Uploaded new revision |
2019-04-11
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03 | Jean Mahoney | Request for Telechat review by GENART Completed: Ready with Issues. Reviewer: Meral Shirazipour. |
2019-04-11
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03 | Cindy Morgan | IESG state changed to IESG Evaluation::Revised I-D Needed from Waiting for Writeup |
2019-04-10
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03 | Suresh Krishnan | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Suresh Krishnan |
2019-04-10
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03 | Alissa Cooper | [Ballot comment] I support Barry's DISCUSS point on Section 3.2. In Section 4.1, I suggest s/The FUZZY algorithm/The FUZZY algorithm identifier/ (since it doesn't refer … [Ballot comment] I support Barry's DISCUSS point on Section 3.2. In Section 4.1, I suggest s/The FUZZY algorithm/The FUZZY algorithm identifier/ (since it doesn't refer to an actual algorithm) |
2019-04-10
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03 | Alissa Cooper | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Alissa Cooper |
2019-04-10
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03 | Benjamin Kaduk | [Ballot comment] [Re-issuing ballot position to direct discussion of the ABNF for 'capability' to Barry's ballot thread; the rest of the COMMENT is unchanged] Section … [Ballot comment] [Re-issuing ballot position to direct discussion of the ABNF for 'capability' to Barry's ballot thread; the rest of the COMMENT is unchanged] Section 3.1 Alternately, the client may explicitly indicate which algorithm(s) should be used in a parenthesized list after the PREVIEW attribute containing the name of the algorithm. These algorithms MUST be one nit: there's potential for misparsing here (e.g., that the PREVIEW attribute contains the name of the algorithm and the parenthesized list is after that), so maybe put "after the PREVIEW attribte" in parentheses or offset by commas. of the algorithms identified as supported in the PREVIEW capability responses. [...] nit: singular/plural mismatch between "these algorithms" and "one of". Section 7 How much discussion was there about "SHOULD be registered" (as opposed to "MUST be registered")? Section 8 side note: This is one of the shortest IANA considerations sections I've seen thta creates registries (in that it doesn't lay out a registration template), but IANA seems to be saying they have what information they need, so who am I to complain... Section 9 I agree with Roman that there should be discussion of the caching/data retention strategy for message previews. This existing text about denial-of-service attacks is probably fine, though I might consider rephrasing it along the lines of "this mechanism introduces a new way for clients to make requests that consume server resources. As is the case for all such mechanisms, it could be used as part of a denial-of-service attack on server resources, e.g., via excessive memory or CPU usage, or increased storage if preview results are cached on the server after generation. The additional attack surface presented by this specific mechanism is not believed to higher risk that other similar mechanisms in use already, since the individual resource consumption per message processed is likely to be modest. Nonetheless, servers MAY limit the resources consumed by preview generation." As I write the above, though, I wonder how this interacts with the previous text in Section 3.1 about how the "server MUST honor a client's algorithm priority decision". Does that mean that if some future (expensive) algorithm is specified, once a server implements that algorithm, any client can force its use and thus the expensive resource consumption on the server? It's not entirely clear to me how this MAY interacts with that MUST, in such a hypothetical scenario. |
2019-04-10
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03 | Benjamin Kaduk | [Ballot Position Update] Position for Benjamin Kaduk has been changed to No Objection from Discuss |
2019-04-10
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03 | Martin Vigoureux | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Martin Vigoureux |
2019-04-09
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03 | Deborah Brungard | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Deborah Brungard |
2019-04-09
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03 | Ignas Bagdonas | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Ignas Bagdonas |
2019-04-09
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03 | Magnus Westerlund | [Ballot comment] In relation to Benjamin's Discuss. I also think there are necessary to clarify if the Capability usage of PREVIEW is a single algorithm … [Ballot comment] In relation to Benjamin's Discuss. I also think there are necessary to clarify if the Capability usage of PREVIEW is a single algorithm or allows listing all the algorithms server supports. |
2019-04-09
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03 | Magnus Westerlund | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Magnus Westerlund |
2019-04-08
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03 | Barry Leiba | [Ballot discuss] — Section 3.1 — I don’t understand “the client’s priority decision”: what decision is that? And what’s the point of giving the server … [Ballot discuss] — Section 3.1 — I don’t understand “the client’s priority decision”: what decision is that? And what’s the point of giving the server a list of algorithms here, given that they all have to be ones that are supported by the server? Won’t the server always have to use the first one in the list? If not, please add some text explaining what the server does. — Section 3.2 — If the preview is not available, the server MUST return NIL as the PREVIEW response. A NIL response indicates to the client that preview information MAY become available in a future PREVIEW FETCH request. Note that this is semantically different than returning a zero-length string, which indicates an empty preview. I think the MUST here is hard to follow, because the text doesn’t make a clear enough distinction between “preview is not available” and “an empty preview”. Can you expand the text a bit to explain the distinction more clearly, as this is a protocol requirement? Also, as I noted in response to Meral’s Gen-ART review it would be good to be clear how encrypted messages should be handled in this regard. — Section 4.1 — The preview text MUST be treated as text/plain MIME data by the client. I think this requires a normative reference to RFC 2046. — Section 7 — As was mentioned in Ben’s review, either the ABNF for “capability” is in error (it should not include “preview-mod-ext”) or the description needs to be significantly beefed up. I’m guessing that the intent is that PREVIEW= capabilities include both algorithms and modifiers, that PREVIEW=FUZZY is required, that the presence of any preview algorithm implies PREVIEW=LAZY such that the latter not only need not be specified, but is not permitted to be. So we might have “PREVIEW=FUZZY PREVIEW=FURRY PREVIEW=SLEEPY”, which would mean we support the algorithms FUZZY and FURRY, and the modifiers LAZY and SLEEPY. Is that correct? That seems somewhat obtuse to me, overloading the PREVIEW= capability and inviting confusion. — Section 8 — It seems like a bad idea to have to keep the IMAP Capabilities registry in sync with the two new registries: as it stands, when you add a new algorithm you have to add it to the Preview Algorithms registry, and also add a corresponding entry in the Capabilities registry... and similarly for a modifier, if I have that right above. Why not follow the model of AUTH= and RIGHTS=, and just reserve the PREVIEW= capability in the registry, allowing it to apply to entries from the two new registries? That avoids inconsistencies in registrations if we later add algorithms or modifiers. |
2019-04-08
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03 | Barry Leiba | Ballot discuss text updated for Barry Leiba |
2019-04-08
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03 | Adam Roach | [Ballot comment] Thanks to everyone who has worked on this document. I have a handful of comments that should be considered prior to publication. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- … [Ballot comment] Thanks to everyone who has worked on this document. I have a handful of comments that should be considered prior to publication. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- §3.1: > These algorithms MUST be one > of the algorithms identified as supported in the PREVIEW capability > responses. This is confusing, as "algorithms" and "one of" don't make sense with each other. Is it meant to say something like "...MUST be a subset of the algorithms..."? --------------------------------------------------------------------------- §3.1: > If a client requests an algorithm that is unsupported, > the server MUST return a tagged BAD response. This appear to be underspecified, or at least nonintuitive. As written, it seems to say that an algorithm list of (known-1, known-2, unknown, known-3) would be considered invalid, even though there are plenty of supported, requested algorithms that could be used. Is this actually intended to be an error? If so, please make it explicit, as it's pretty counterintuitive. (As an aside: it's also unnecessarily fragile from an interop perspective, so I would suggest that this is not the desired behavior: I believe you want to return an error only when *none* of the requested algorithms are supported). --------------------------------------------------------------------------- §6, example 5: > C: E1 CAPABILITY > S: * CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 PREVIEW=FUZZY SEARCHRES > S: E1 OK Capability command completed. > [...a mailbox is SELECTed...] > C: E2 SEARCH RETURN (SAVE) FROM "FOO" > C: E3 FETCH $ (UID PREVIEW (LAZY=FUZZY)) This example shows the use of a modifier ("LAZY") with an algorithm; however, this modifier doesn't appear to be advertised by the server in its CAPABILITY line. If I understand how this is supposed to work (looking at the definitions in section 7), I would have expected: S: * CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 PREVIEW=FUZZY PREVIEW=LAZY SEARCHRES I'll note that this syntax effectively places algorithms and modifiers in the same namespace, although IANA doesn't seem to be given any explicit instructions about this. I think this needs to be cleaned up prior to publication. I would make this last point a DISCUSS, except that it appears to be covered by Benjamin's DISCUSS already. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- §1: > Using server generated previews allows global generation once per0 nit: "server-generated" |
2019-04-08
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03 | Adam Roach | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Adam Roach |
2019-04-07
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03 | Barry Leiba | [Ballot discuss] — Section 3.1 — I don’t understand “the client’s priority decision”: what decision is that? And what’s the point of giving the server … [Ballot discuss] — Section 3.1 — I don’t understand “the client’s priority decision”: what decision is that? And what’s the point of giving the server a list of algorithms here, given that they all have to be ones that are supported by the server? Won’t the server always have to use the first one in the list? If not, please add some text explaining what the server does. — Section 3.2 — If the preview is not available, the server MUST return NIL as the PREVIEW response. A NIL response indicates to the client that preview information MAY become available in a future PREVIEW FETCH request. Note that this is semantically different than returning a zero-length string, which indicates an empty preview. I think the MUST here is hard to follow, because the text doesn’t make a clear enough distinction between “preview is not available” and “an empty preview”. Can you expand the text a bit to explain the distinction more clearly, as this is a protocol requirement? Also, as I noted in response to Meral’s Gen-ART review it would be good to be clear how encrypted messages should be handled in this regard. — Section 4.1 — The preview text MUST be treated as text/plain MIME data by the client. I think this requires a normative reference to RFC 2046. — Section 5.1 — The way you have LAZY working isn’t really consistent with the IMAP protocol model. In that model, the client would not have to ask for the preview twice, one with LAZY and one without. Instead, with LAZY, the server would return FETCH PREVIEW responses when it could — perhaps some in the first set of FETCH responses, and some, where the PREVIEW part was missing before, in unsolicited FETCH responses when the preview became available. That way, the server has the responsibility of setting off a separate task to generate the previews, and to send them to the client when it has them (at which point it either saves the for future FETCHes or doesn’t). As it’s written here, the client has to open a separate IMAP session with the server and ask a second time for the previews it’s missing — a separate session to avoid blocking other action on the main session. And if the server has spun off a task to preemptively generate them because the client asked once (a good practice, given the description here) it has to retain them for some indefinite period waiting for the client to ask again. Why was this not done with the first mechanism? — Section 7 — As was mentioned in Ben’s review, either the ABNF for “capability” is in error (it should not include “preview-mod-ext”) or the description needs to be significantly beefed up. I’m guessing that the intent is that PREVIEW= capabilities include both algorithms and modifiers, that PREVIEW=FUZZY is required, that the presence of any preview algorithm implies PREVIEW=LAZY such that the latter not only need not be specified, but is not permitted to be. So we might have “PREVIEW=FUZZY PREVIEW=FURRY PREVIEW=SLEEPY”, which would mean we support the algorithms FUZZY and FURRY, and the modifiers LAZY and SLEEPY. Is that correct? That seems somewhat obtuse to me, overloading the PREVIEW= capability and inviting confusion. — Section 8 — It seems like a bad idea to have to keep the IMAP Capabilities registry in sync with the two new registries: as it stands, when you add a new algorithm you have to add it to the Preview Algorithms registry, and also add a corresponding entry in the Capabilities registry... and similarly for a modifier, if I have that right above. Why not follow the model of AUTH= and RIGHTS=, and just reserve the PREVIEW= capability in the registry, allowing it to apply to entries from the two new registries? That avoids inconsistencies in registrations if we later add algorithms or modifiers. |
2019-04-07
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03 | Barry Leiba | [Ballot comment] — Section 3.1 — Nit: Please change “alternately” to “alternatively”. These algorithms MUST be one of the algorithms identified as supported … [Ballot comment] — Section 3.1 — Nit: Please change “alternately” to “alternatively”. These algorithms MUST be one of the algorithms identified as supported in the PREVIEW capability responses. There’s a number-agreement problem here. NEW All algorithms in the list MUST have been included in the list of algorithms identified as supported in the PREVIEW capability responses. END — Section 3.2 — This relaxed requirement permits a server to offer previews as an option without requiring potentially burdensome storage and/or processing requirements to guarantee immutability for a use case that does not require this strictness. That’s sensible, but can you include some text giving an example of a situation where the preview might change? Given that the messages themselves are immutable, why would applying the same algorithm to the same text give different results? — Section 4.1 — The server SHOULD limit the length of the preview text to 200 preview characters. This length should provide sufficient data to generally support both various languages (and their different average word lengths) and different client display size requirements. The server MUST NOT output preview text longer than 256 preview characters. The text here should make it clear, because many implementers do not understand the difference, that these refer to *characters*, not *bytes*, and that 200 or 256 characters can possibly be much longer than 256 bytes. I worry that an implementer might allocate a buffer of 256 bytes, thinking that’s enough, and have it overflowed. The server SHOULD remove any formatting markup that exists in the original text. This is OK as it is, but perhaps a bit more specific than necessary. I think the sense is that the server is meant to do its best to render the preview as plain text, because that’s what the client will treat it as. As such, I would fold this into the earlier paragraph that talks about no transfer encoding, and maybe say it something like this: The generated string will be treated by the client as plain text, so the server should do its best to provide a meaningful plain text string. The generated string MUST NOT be content transfer encoded and MUST be encoded in UTF-8 [RFC3629]. For purposes of this section, a "preview character" is defined as a single UCS character encoded in UTF-8. The server SHOULD also remove any formatting markup, and do what other processing might be useful in rendering the preview as plain text. |
2019-04-07
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03 | Barry Leiba | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Discuss, has been recorded for Barry Leiba |
2019-04-05
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03 | Benjamin Kaduk | [Ballot discuss] I wavered a lot about whether this was DISCUSS-worthy, but it seems like we should at least talk about how big a risk … [Ballot discuss] I wavered a lot about whether this was DISCUSS-worthy, but it seems like we should at least talk about how big a risk for future confusion there is: I'm a little confused by the ABNF for 'capability' in Section 7 -- it seems to allow for (e.g.) PREVIEW=LAZYV2, but the introduction and Section 3.1 talk only about *algorithms* in PREVIEW capability responses (and not modifiers). Is the intent to have capability tags for (non-mandatory) priority modifiers? |
2019-04-05
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03 | Benjamin Kaduk | [Ballot comment] Section 3.1 Alternately, the client may explicitly indicate which algorithm(s) should be used in a parenthesized list after the PREVIEW attribute … [Ballot comment] Section 3.1 Alternately, the client may explicitly indicate which algorithm(s) should be used in a parenthesized list after the PREVIEW attribute containing the name of the algorithm. These algorithms MUST be one nit: there's potential for misparsing here (e.g., that the PREVIEW attribute contains the name of the algorithm and the parenthesized list is after that), so maybe put "after the PREVIEW attribte" in parentheses or offset by commas. of the algorithms identified as supported in the PREVIEW capability responses. [...] nit: singular/plural mismatch between "these algorithms" and "one of". Section 7 How much discussion was there about "SHOULD be registered" (as opposed to "MUST be registered")? Section 8 side note: This is one of the shortest IANA considerations sections I've seen thta creates registries (in that it doesn't lay out a registration template), but IANA seems to be saying they have what information they need, so who am I to complain... Section 9 I agree with Roman that there should be discussion of the caching/data retention strategy for message previews. This existing text about denial-of-service attacks is probably fine, though I might consider rephrasing it along the lines of "this mechanism introduces a new way for clients to make requests that consume server resources. As is the case for all such mechanisms, it could be used as part of a denial-of-service attack on server resources, e.g., via excessive memory or CPU usage, or increased storage if preview results are cached on the server after generation. The additional attack surface presented by this specific mechanism is not believed to higher risk that other similar mechanisms in use already, since the individual resource consumption per message processed is likely to be modest. Nonetheless, servers MAY limit the resources consumed by preview generation." As I write the above, though, I wonder how this interacts with the previous text in Section 3.1 about how the "server MUST honor a client's algorithm priority decision". Does that mean that if some future (expensive) algorithm is specified, once a server implements that algorithm, any client can force its use and thus the expensive resource consumption on the server? It's not entirely clear to me how this MAY interacts with that MUST, in such a hypothetical scenario. |
2019-04-05
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03 | Benjamin Kaduk | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Discuss, has been recorded for Benjamin Kaduk |
2019-04-04
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03 | (System) | IANA Review state changed to IANA OK - Actions Needed from Version Changed - Review Needed |
2019-04-04
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03 | Éric Vyncke | [Ballot comment] On the positive side, I really like the "it allows consistent representation of previews across all clients" in section 1. Some questions though: … [Ballot comment] On the positive side, I really like the "it allows consistent representation of previews across all clients" in section 1. Some questions though: 1) In the FUZZY algorithm (section 4.1), are we sure that removing all markup does significantly change the message? a can sometimes be perceived as a '.' == end of sentence; and removing them could vastly change the meaning of the message. 2) Section 3.2 "A server SHOULD strive to generate the same string for a give message for each request." which seems to contradict the "consistent representation" stated in section 1. |
2019-04-04
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03 | Éric Vyncke | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Éric Vyncke |
2019-04-03
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03 | Roman Danyliw | [Ballot discuss] (1) Retention practices of cached previews Section 1 says “Using server generated previews allows global generation once per message, and then cached indefinitely”. … [Ballot discuss] (1) Retention practices of cached previews Section 1 says “Using server generated previews allows global generation once per message, and then cached indefinitely”. Why cache indefinitely, especially if the source messages has been expunged? For privacy reasons, couldn’t this caching be consistent with the retention of the email. In Section 9, Security Considerations, there needs to be discussion of this retention too. Perhaps text like: “Implementations that pre-generate and store previews MUST ensure that the stored preview is also deleted when the corresponding mail message is expunged.” (2) Protection of previews at rest In Section 9, Security Considerations, there needs to be discussion about the potential sensitivity of these previews and the need to protect them. Perhaps text like: “Just as the messages they summarize, previews may contain sensitive information. When stored, these previews MUST be protected with equivalent authorization and confidentiality controls as the source message.” |
2019-04-03
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03 | Roman Danyliw | [Ballot comment] (1) Use of RFC 2119 words Please consider if these proposed changes are appropriate uses of RFC 2119 key words: Section 2 s/As … [Ballot comment] (1) Use of RFC 2119 words Please consider if these proposed changes are appropriate uses of RFC 2119 key words: Section 2 s/As with all IMAP extension documents, the case used in writing IMAP protocol elements herein is chosen for editorial clarity, and implementations must pay attention to the numbered rules at the beginning of [RFC3501] Section 9./ As with all IMAP extension documents, the case used in writing IMAP protocol elements herein is chosen for editorial clarity, and implementations MUST pay attention to the numbered rules at the beginning of [RFC3501] Section 9./ Section 3.1 s/Alternately, the client may explicitly indicate which algorithm(s) should be used in a parenthesized list after the PREVIEW attribute containing the name of the algorithm./ Alternately, the client MAY explicitly indicate which algorithm(s) should be used in a parenthesized list after the PREVIEW attribute containing the name of the algorithm./ (2) Section 3.1, the paragraph “If no algorithm identifier is provided, the server decides …” discusses algorithm identifiers but their use hasn’t been introduced yet. I recommend swapping the order of this paragraph with the current third paragraph (“Alternative …”) as this is where algorithms are introduced. (3) Section 4.1. Duplicate word. s/to the the language/to the language/ (4) Section 4.1. Nit on word order. s/no human-readable text to generate preview information from/no human-readable text from which to generate preview information/ (5) Section 7. In the ABNF comments, consider using “[RFC6648]” instead of “RFC 6648”. |
2019-04-03
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03 | Roman Danyliw | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Discuss, has been recorded for Roman Danyliw |
2019-04-03
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03 | Mirja Kühlewind | [Ballot comment] A few small comments on the IANA section: It would be good to also provide a name for each of the new registries … [Ballot comment] A few small comments on the IANA section: It would be good to also provide a name for each of the new registries (but I'm sure IANA will ask about this in their review). However, I'm also wondering why you don't specify straight away the use of the IETF Review policy as specified in RFC5226? Is there something different in there that does not work for you? |
2019-04-03
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03 | Mirja Kühlewind | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Mirja Kühlewind |
2019-04-03
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03 | Alexey Melnikov | Ballot has been issued |
2019-04-03
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03 | Alexey Melnikov | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Alexey Melnikov |
2019-04-03
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03 | Alexey Melnikov | Created "Approve" ballot |
2019-04-03
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03 | Alexey Melnikov | Ballot writeup was changed |
2019-03-22
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03 | Stefan Santesson | Request for Last Call review by SECDIR Completed: Has Issues. Reviewer: Stefan Santesson. Sent review to list. |
2019-03-07
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03 | Jean Mahoney | Request for Telechat review by GENART is assigned to Meral Shirazipour |
2019-03-07
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03 | Jean Mahoney | Request for Telechat review by GENART is assigned to Meral Shirazipour |
2019-03-07
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03 | Jean Mahoney | Closed request for Last Call review by GENART with state 'No Response' |
2019-02-25
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03 | Alexey Melnikov | Placed on agenda for telechat - 2019-04-11 |
2019-02-16
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03 | Michael Slusarz | New version available: draft-ietf-extra-imap-fetch-preview-03.txt |
2019-02-16
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03 | (System) | New version approved |
2019-02-16
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03 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Michael Slusarz |
2019-02-16
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03 | Michael Slusarz | Uploaded new revision |
2019-02-13
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02 | (System) | IANA Review state changed to Version Changed - Review Needed from IANA - Not OK |
2019-02-13
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02 | Michael Slusarz | New version available: draft-ietf-extra-imap-fetch-preview-02.txt |
2019-02-13
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02 | (System) | New version approved |
2019-02-13
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02 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Michael Slusarz |
2019-02-13
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02 | Michael Slusarz | Uploaded new revision |
2019-02-11
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01 | (System) | IANA Review state changed to IANA - Not OK from IANA - Review Needed |
2019-02-11
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01 | Sabrina Tanamal | (Via drafts-lastcall@iana.org): IESG/Authors/WG Chairs: The IANA Functions Operator has completed its review of draft-ietf-extra-imap-fetch-preview-01. If any part of this review is inaccurate, please let … (Via drafts-lastcall@iana.org): IESG/Authors/WG Chairs: The IANA Functions Operator has completed its review of draft-ietf-extra-imap-fetch-preview-01. If any part of this review is inaccurate, please let us know. The IANA Functions Operator has a question about one of the actions requested in the IANA Considerations section of this document. The IANA Functions Operator understands that, upon approval of this document, there are three actions which we must complete. First, in the Internet Message Access Protocol (IMAP) Capabilities Registry located at: https://www.iana.org/assignments/imap-capabilities/ a single new capability is to be registered as follows: Capability Name: PREVIEW=FUZZY Reference: [ RFC-to-be ] Second, a new registry is to be created called the PREVIEW algorithms registry. Registrations are managed via standards track or IESG-approved experimental RFC as defined in RFC 8126. IANA Question --> Where should this new registry be located? Should it be added to an existing registry page? If not, does it belong in an existing category at http://www.iana.org/protocols? The initial registry is to look as follows: PREVIEW Algorithm Reference -----------------------+---------------- FUZZY [ RFC-to-be ] Third, a new registry is to be created called the PREVIEW modifiers registry. Registrations are managed via standards track or IESG-approved experimental RFC as defined in RFC 8126. IANA Question --> Where should this new registry be located? Should it be added to an existing registry page? If not, does it belong in an existing category at http://www.iana.org/protocols? The initial registry is to look as follows: PREVIEW Modifier Reference -----------------------+---------------- LAZY [ RFC-to-be ] The IANA Functions Operator understands that these are the only actions required to be completed upon approval of this document. Note: The actions requested in this document will not be completed until the document has been approved for publication as an RFC. This message is meant only to confirm the list of actions that will be performed. Thank you, Sabrina Tanamal Senior IANA Services Specialist |
2019-02-11
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01 | (System) | IESG state changed to Waiting for Writeup from In Last Call |
2019-02-05
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01 | Gunter Van de Velde | Request for Last Call review by OPSDIR is assigned to Jouni Korhonen |
2019-02-05
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01 | Gunter Van de Velde | Request for Last Call review by OPSDIR is assigned to Jouni Korhonen |
2019-01-31
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01 | Jean Mahoney | Request for Last Call review by GENART is assigned to Jari Arkko |
2019-01-31
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01 | Jean Mahoney | Request for Last Call review by GENART is assigned to Jari Arkko |
2019-01-31
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01 | Tero Kivinen | Request for Last Call review by SECDIR is assigned to Stefan Santesson |
2019-01-31
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01 | Tero Kivinen | Request for Last Call review by SECDIR is assigned to Stefan Santesson |
2019-01-28
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01 | Amy Vezza | IANA Review state changed to IANA - Review Needed |
2019-01-28
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01 | Amy Vezza | The following Last Call announcement was sent out (ends 2019-02-11): From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce CC: draft-ietf-extra-imap-fetch-preview@ietf.org, extra@ietf.org, brong@fastmailteam.com, extra-chairs@ietf.org, alexey.melnikov@isode.com … The following Last Call announcement was sent out (ends 2019-02-11): From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce CC: draft-ietf-extra-imap-fetch-preview@ietf.org, extra@ietf.org, brong@fastmailteam.com, extra-chairs@ietf.org, alexey.melnikov@isode.com, Bron Gondwana Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org Sender: Subject: Last Call: (IMAP4 Extension: Message Preview Generation) to Proposed Standard The IESG has received a request from the Email mailstore and eXtensions To Revise or Amend WG (extra) to consider the following document: - 'IMAP4 Extension: Message Preview Generation' as Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2019-02-11. Exceptionally, comments may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting. Abstract This document specifies an IMAP protocol extension which allows a client to request that a server provide an abbreviated representation of a message that can be used by a client to provide a useful contextual preview of the message contents. The file can be obtained via https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-extra-imap-fetch-preview/ IESG discussion can be tracked via https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-extra-imap-fetch-preview/ballot/ No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D. |
2019-01-28
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01 | Amy Vezza | IESG state changed to In Last Call from Last Call Requested |
2019-01-28
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01 | Alexey Melnikov | Last call was requested |
2019-01-28
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01 | Alexey Melnikov | Last call announcement was generated |
2019-01-28
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01 | Alexey Melnikov | Ballot approval text was generated |
2019-01-28
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01 | Alexey Melnikov | Ballot writeup was generated |
2019-01-28
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01 | Alexey Melnikov | IESG state changed to Last Call Requested from AD Evaluation::AD Followup |
2019-01-28
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01 | Alexey Melnikov | This still needs a small ABNF change to allow for different capabilities, but this can be done during or after IETF LC. |
2019-01-22
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01 | (System) | Sub state has been changed to AD Followup from Revised ID Needed |
2019-01-22
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01 | Michael Slusarz | New version available: draft-ietf-extra-imap-fetch-preview-01.txt |
2019-01-22
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01 | (System) | New version approved |
2019-01-22
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01 | (System) | Request for posting confirmation emailed to previous authors: Michael Slusarz |
2019-01-22
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01 | Michael Slusarz | Uploaded new revision |
2019-01-14
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00 | Alexey Melnikov | New revision needed to address AD review comments. |
2019-01-14
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00 | Alexey Melnikov | IESG state changed to AD Evaluation::Revised I-D Needed from AD Evaluation |
2019-01-09
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00 | Alexey Melnikov | IESG state changed to AD Evaluation from Publication Requested |
2019-01-03
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00 | Bron Gondwana | Document Shepherd Write-Up for draft-ietf-extra-imap-fetch-preview 1. This document is being requested as an Proposed Standard because it extends an existing Proposed Standard (RFC3501). … Document Shepherd Write-Up for draft-ietf-extra-imap-fetch-preview 1. This document is being requested as an Proposed Standard because it extends an existing Proposed Standard (RFC3501). The request type is indicated in the title page header as "Standards Track" 2. Technical Summary This spec extends IMAP with an additional fetch item (PREVIEW) which allows clients to obtain a short piece of text to use as a preview line in mailbox listings. Working Group Summary This document and fetch item was originally named "snippet", however JMAP uses "preview" for the equivalent field, and "snippet" for a marked up section of the message containing search terms, so the working group agreed to change the naming to be consistent. There was also debate over the maximum length, with both JMAP and EXTRA working groups settling on 256 characters maximum. Finally there were questions over whether "LAZY" was useful, but nobody saw any downside to including it. Servers can choose to always calculate the preview even if LAZY is given. Document Quality This spec is quite easy to implement - it has multiple examples for all the likely cases. It's been implemented in Dovecot and Cyrus IMAPd. Personnel Document Shepherd - Bron Gondwana (EXTRA co-chair) Responsible Area Director - Alexey Melnikov 3. The Document Shepherd has read the document through in detail and implemented it in the Cyrus IMAPd server. 4. There are no concerns about reviews, this document has been well reviewed. 5. There is no review required for the document by other areas. 6. There are no concerns with this document that IESG should be aware of. 7. Yes, the author has been contacted and confirmed and confirmed that they have no disclosures. 8. There have been no IPR disclosures filed. 9. The WG consensus is solid. 10. There has been no discontent. 11. The ID nits tool said that the document year doesn't match current year, but that's only because I ran it really early in 2019! 12. This document doesn't define anything which needs formal review outside the working group. 13. All references have been identified as either normative or informative. 14. All normative references are published standards. 15. There are no downward normative references references. 16. This RFC does not change the status of any other RFCs. 17. The IANA considerations just asks for an entry in the IMAP capabilities registry. 18. There are no new IANA registries. 19. The formal sections were validated with Chris Newman's ABNF validator tool. |
2019-01-03
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00 | Bron Gondwana | Responsible AD changed to Alexey Melnikov |
2019-01-03
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00 | Bron Gondwana | IETF WG state changed to Submitted to IESG for Publication from In WG Last Call |
2019-01-03
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00 | Bron Gondwana | IESG state changed to Publication Requested from I-D Exists |
2019-01-03
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00 | Bron Gondwana | IESG process started in state Publication Requested |
2019-01-03
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00 | Bron Gondwana | Document Shepherd Write-Up for draft-ietf-extra-imap-fetch-preview 1. This document is being requested as an Proposed Standard because it extends an existing Proposed Standard (RFC3501). … Document Shepherd Write-Up for draft-ietf-extra-imap-fetch-preview 1. This document is being requested as an Proposed Standard because it extends an existing Proposed Standard (RFC3501). The request type is indicated in the title page header as "Standards Track" 2. Technical Summary This spec extends IMAP with an additional fetch item (PREVIEW) which allows clients to obtain a short piece of text to use as a preview line in mailbox listings. Working Group Summary This document and fetch item was originally named "snippet", however JMAP uses "preview" for the equivalent field, and "snippet" for a marked up section of the message containing search terms, so the working group agreed to change the naming to be consistent. There was also debate over the maximum length, with both JMAP and EXTRA working groups settling on 256 characters maximum. Finally there were questions over whether "LAZY" was useful, but nobody saw any downside to including it. Servers can choose to always calculate the preview even if LAZY is given. Document Quality This spec is quite easy to implement - it has multiple examples for all the likely cases. It's been implemented in Dovecot and Cyrus IMAPd. Personnel Document Shepherd - Bron Gondwana (EXTRA co-chair) Responsible Area Director - Alexey Melnikov 3. The Document Shepherd has read the document through in detail and implemented it in the Cyrus IMAPd server. 4. There are no concerns about reviews, this document has been well reviewed. 5. There is no review required for the document by other areas. 6. There are no concerns with this document that IESG should be aware of. 7. Yes, the author has been contacted and confirmed and confirmed that they have no disclosures. 8. There have been no IPR disclosures filed. 9. The WG consensus is solid. 10. There has been no discontent. 11. The ID nits tool said that the document year doesn't match current year, but that's only because I ran it really early in 2019! 12. This document doesn't define anything which needs formal review outside the working group. 13. All references have been identified as either normative or informative. 14. All normative references are published standards. 15. There are no downward normative references references. 16. This RFC does not change the status of any other RFCs. 17. The IANA considerations just asks for an entry in the IMAP capabilities registry. 18. There are no new IANA registries. 19. The formal sections were validated with Chris Newman's ABNF validator tool. |
2019-01-03
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00 | Bron Gondwana | Notification list changed to Bron Gondwana <brong@fastmailteam.com> |
2019-01-03
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00 | Bron Gondwana | Document shepherd changed to Bron Gondwana |
2018-12-04
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00 | Bron Gondwana | IETF WG state changed to In WG Last Call from WG Document |
2018-12-04
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00 | Bron Gondwana | Changed consensus to Yes from Unknown |
2018-12-04
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00 | Bron Gondwana | Intended Status changed to Proposed Standard from None |
2018-11-06
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00 | Bron Gondwana | This document now replaces draft-ietf-extra-imap-fetch-snippet instead of None |
2018-11-06
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00 | Michael Slusarz | New version available: draft-ietf-extra-imap-fetch-preview-00.txt |
2018-11-06
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00 | (System) | WG -00 approved |
2018-11-05
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00 | Michael Slusarz | Set submitter to "Michael Slusarz ", replaces to draft-ietf-extra-imap-fetch-snippet and sent approval email to group chairs: extra-chairs@ietf.org |
2018-11-05
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00 | Michael Slusarz | Uploaded new revision |